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« on: September 14, 2003, 08:50:23 PM »

I don't know if Auron will let this topic stay, but there's been quite a bit of discussion of Tolkien in another topic called Farm Revolts and I thought it might be better to move the discussion here so that thread might be used for, I don't know, a discussion about Farm Revolts.  Also, if they are seperated it might be easier to follow both conversations.  So, here the topic is, and if Auron closes it because he thinks it's too out there, I do apologize to him for the inconvenience of putting up another useless topic that you have to close down, but I did think there was osme interest in the topic.

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2003, 09:01:56 PM »

I'll help you move the conversation. It would make much more sense here.

I've actually had this conversation with a good friend of mine who, as a hobby, analyzes the TotR series and discusses the books. She once mentioned to me that people have actually sung their own version of the songs and put them out on personnal websites and/or a downloading system like Kazaa. I'll see what I can find.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2003, 09:03:38 PM »

That would be cool!  If you find the songs on Kazaa, please let us know!  Wink  
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2003, 09:08:03 PM »

Moved to Arts and Literature.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2003, 09:11:14 PM »

Oh, ok.  Does that mean we won't be able to access it form the city anymore?

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2003, 09:22:31 PM »

Well... we can for now, but the link will disapepar eventually.  Wink

Maybe you should create a new thread in the City explaining where the old one went!  LOL
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2003, 09:55:06 PM »

Just borrowed The Silmarillion today...started reading it and it is INCREDIBLE!!  Cheesy  I've read the trilogy, but I think that this is almost better...:rolleyes:
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2003, 09:56:06 PM »

The link in the city will remain until its deleted.  
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2003, 10:09:55 PM »

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Just borrowed The Silmarillion today...started reading it and it is INCREDIBLE!!  I've read the trilogy, but I think that this is almost better...

I feel the same way.  I absolutely love it.  This was Tolkien's first love.  He spent twenty years on LOTR; he spent his life on the Silmarillion.  It's what he did first and what he was still doing when he died.

Here's the next installment of SIlmarillion:

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On a time of autumn he came in the dusk of evening, and drawing near he saw as he thought a
light at the window; and coming warily he looked within. There he saw Eilinel, and her face was
worn with grief and hunger, and it seemed to him that he heard her voice lamenting that he had
forsaken her. But even as he cried aloud the light was blown out in the wind; wolves howled, and on
his shoulders he felt suddenly the heavy hands of Sauron's hunters. Thus Gorlim was ensnared; and
taking him to their camp they tormented, seeking to learn the hidings of Barahir and all his ways.
But nothing would Gorlim tell. Then they promised him that he should be released and restored to
Eilinel, if he would yield; and being at last worn with pain, and yearning for his wife, he faltered.
Then straightaway they brought him into the dreadful presence of Sauron; and Sauron said: 'I hear
now that thou wouldst barter with me. What is thy price?'

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2003, 10:12:35 PM »

I won't dont worry. However, it will slip off the first page of the city pretty fast.

If anyone starts talkin Tolkien in there, Im gonna chuck em a link here though Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2003, 10:20:11 PM »

Okay, thanks.  Tongue

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And Gorlim answered that he should find Eilinel again, and with her be set free; for he
thought Eilinel also had been made captive.
Than Sauron smiled, saying: 'That is a small price for so great a treachery. So shall it surely
be. Say on!'
Now Gorlim would have drawn back, but daunted by the eyes of Sauron he told at last all that
he would know. Then Sauron laughed; and he mocked Gorlim, and revealed to him that he had only
seen a phantom devised by wizardry to entrap him; for Eilinel was dead. 'Nonetheless I will grant
thy prayer,' said Sauron; 'and thou shalt go to Eilinel, and be set free of my service.' Then he put
him cruelly to death.

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2003, 03:43:34 AM »

Why should I have bought The Silmarillion if I have all your quotes, lady?  LOL   Still, keep 'em coming.  It's a nice touch.

Oh, want some content for this post?  Er... Gorlim should have known better than to trust Sauron!  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2003, 04:08:06 AM »

i agree.....the silmarillion is incredible.....when i took the time to read it, i was blown away.  It fills in so much of what is only hinted at in the more popular books
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2003, 12:26:01 AM »

I like it much more than LoTR.  Except, it's kinda hard to keep track of all those Noldor with the similar names...  Feanor, Fingol, Fingolfin, Finarfin... need I say more?  LOL  
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2003, 01:11:43 AM »

Yeah, it makes it a little more hard to follow, but I like it that way.  It keeps it from getting boring so you can get more each time you read it as you become more and more familiar with the characters.

Oh, and you should buy (/have bought) the Silmarillion cuz I'm only going over part of it and it is so much better to read it yourself than to get bits and pieces every day, which makes it harder to get into the story.

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In this way the hiding of Barahir was revealed, and Morgoth drew his net about it; and the
Orcs coming in the still hours before dawn surprised the men of Dorthonion and slew them all, save
one. For Beren son of Barahir had been sent by his father on a perilous errand to spy upon the ways
of the Enemy, and he was far afield when the lair was taken. But as he slept benighted in the forest
he dreamed that carrion-birds sat thick as leaves upon bare trees beside a mere, and blood dripped
from their beaks.

Then Beren was aware in his dream of a form that came to him across the water, and it was a
wraith of Gorlim; and it spoke to him declaring his treachery and death, and bade him make haste to
warn his father. Then Beren awoke, and sped through the night, and came back to the lair of the
outlaws on the second morning. But as he drew near the carrion-birds rose from the ground and sat
in the alder-trees beside Tarn Aeluin, and croaked in mockery.

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