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« on: May 19, 2004, 09:49:22 AM »


Meh, Firearms is useless.  Play The Specialists!
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2004, 01:18:15 PM »

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Meh, Firearms is useless.  Play The Specialists!
Blah. Specialists has no Bizon, no Anaconda, and no Marine-Bot. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2004, 01:29:18 PM »


And Firearms has no Raging Bull, Golden Colts or Katanas!  Nor does it have the ability to freeze time, or anything like the realistic physics of TS.  And the TS bot AI is excellent, and highly configurable if you know what you're doing.  Howzat!  Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2004, 01:53:08 PM »

Blah, only the Katana is any good there.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2004, 03:22:20 PM »

just replace the knife model then, not hard eh?
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2004, 03:53:34 PM »

Yeah, but the range and damage animations would be screwed?
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2004, 10:15:06 PM »

damage animations?  :blink: find the model that should be there (dunno are you using steam or not?) you can take the hit boxes out of that and put it into a new compile file and recompile the model with a katana and it wont change the game play
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2004, 10:19:49 PM »

Well the bit where the blood comes out from?

Katanas are 3-4 times longer than a regular knife, so would have a further reach and would look odd when I stabbed with it.

And no I don't use Steam; it's evil!
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2004, 09:56:50 AM »


And what's more, in TS you can run more than ten foot before you have to stop.  And a Raging Bull does more damage than a shotgun at close range!

Firearms doesn't give you frags for using skill weapons like kung-fu or throwing knives etc.   Heck, it doesn't even have throwing knives!
And TS isn't even out of the beta yet.  But we're going way off-topic here - someone should split this to the gaming forum.  Invision can split topics, yes?

And Steam is indeed evil.  Use it not.
 
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2004, 12:12:26 PM »

Blah, 10 feet is only 3 metres?

You can sprint as far as that in Firearms, further if you have Battlefield Agility.

And Beta labels mean nothing.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2004, 02:22:09 PM »

A rough translation of the word Beta..:

We cannot be held responsible for anything that happens to your PC whilst playing this game. No we didnt put that trojan there, it must have slipped in past our coding, ah well, gutted, it was only a Beta, you can sue us, haha.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2004, 02:30:59 PM »

Yup. It's mostly just a way of releasing regular software but without responsibility for bugs caused by bad coding.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2004, 04:02:24 PM »


What a lovely unbiased topic description we have here...

Anyway, sprinting's what I meant - you can only sprint a very short distance before you slow down to such an extent that you're better off not walking at all!  I notice that you can't dive through doorways, or launch yourself through windows in Firearms, nor are the grenades as realistic.

And because TS is still in beta stage, it's still being actively developed, and we're only judging it by the features it has at the moment!  And TS is better suited to teamplay then Firearms, to boot.
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2004, 04:59:03 PM »

You can dive through doorways... it just doesn't look like your diving through. Tongue

If you're good at sprinting, you can do it for a short period, hold of, sprint, hold of, and get about twice as much distance with a decent speed. It's only if you completely use up your stamina that you slow down completely.

Grenades/mines are probably over-powered in FA, though I don't know... maybe real ones are that powerful, but I'd say they're too powerful fod gameplay anyhow.

Blah, maybe I'll actually download TS later and give it a proper evaluation. Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2004, 09:17:03 AM »


It's an excellent game if you take the time to learn how to use the powerups properly - and as the name says, it's The Specialists.  Whereas Firearms is just that: he who shoots wins.
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