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Author Topic: Where does d1skreets money go?  (Read 30909 times)
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« on: January 21, 2004, 08:31:52 PM »

OK, I have been watching d1skreets account for a while, and I notice some suspicious activity.

1) His army is large, yet I never see him with money
                 I work in front of a computer all day.... no money during the day
                 I have stayed up until 2AM speaking with fire.... no money
                 I usually get up 2 times at night to spend..... no money
                 
2) This morning, he money got spent it... so, the next turn, I attacked him and got it. Next turn, I did nothing, and it got spent... the next turn, I attacked again, and got it... I then sent him a message, saying if he was there at his machine, could he please respond.... no response... next turn, his money got spent.

So, it appears that his money gets spent every turn, yet he is not around to return a message back to me?

OK, that's not hard evidence... but I figured with the accusations of Orc Army members cheating, I would just like to point out this strong possibility.

To prove me wrong, the test would be very simple....he could respond to my message. I'm sure with his DA there are not a lot of people just waiting for each turn to go by to farm him. Anyone who can break his defense would wait for targets that over well over 1 million.

As far as our 'fake' attacks, I will leave it up to him to check our clicklist with those names of members with the lousy SA who attacked him... the ones he provided the other day are all valid members, and a small bit of research (like looking at the members on our clickmaster) will show that.  
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2004, 08:59:53 PM »

point taken.  next time give me at least 30 seconds to spend my gold... the two times you hit me, you hit me right when the tbg showed up.  

one thing i will make note of: everyone on the first page must have a spender... because they never have gold on them either.  hmm, i wonder if it's possible they get attacked.

and now.. i'm off to spend my tbg.  Tongue


well would you look at that... i didn't quite make it in time.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2004, 09:15:38 PM »

I'm sure people in the top 100 do get attacked quite a bit... however, they do manage to let their gold sit for more than 1 turn.

BTW... you never responded to my message in game? I know you were there... your gold was getting spent


Duke_Bedford 5 30,320 Humans  2,183,140 Gold
DJ_RADU 10 19,275 Elves  910,122 Gold
DARK_ATELIOTOS2 11 17,245 Orcs  760,044 Gold
bombermanneke 16 18,061 Dwarves  816,241 Gold
dwarfke 17 13,955 Dwarves  1,071,147 Gold
JFKConspiracy 20 21,132 Orcs  1,109,852 Gold
Igorlbg 22 16,522 Humans  871,053 Gold
KillyDSL 23 20,506 Orcs  884,759 Gold
Ballzie 30 8,008 Dwarves  570,349 Gold
Nanoc 31 17,466 Dwarves  696,625 Gold
Ratoshigan 32 9,423 Orcs  858,285 Gold
Shadow_J 60 8,454 Dwarves  1,034,106 Gold
Kitel 66 5,517 Elves  1,592,493 Gold
Yorec 70 5,064 Humans  969,265 Gold
Danuthor 75 5,615 Dwarves  813,175 Gold
Spaceboy2x 85 8,099 Elves  670,204 Gold
hugomontoya 92 5,971 Dwarves  1,071,151 Gold

.... not sure why these guys can keep it a little longer but you get it taken each turn? I highly doubt it's just cause you have a bunch of revengful people waiting for you each turn.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2004, 09:31:29 PM »

i never said my gold was stolen every turn.  most of the time it isn't.  and you know what?  i don't owe you an explanation for anything.  nor do i owe you a response to your in-game message.

cheers.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2004, 09:34:56 PM »

Yous are the cheaters. Example: SithLord, MysticSith and other sith peeps. TGA does not cheat, its yous!
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2004, 09:44:15 PM »

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i never said my gold was stolen every turn.  most of the time it isn't.  and you know what?  i don't owe you an explanation for anything.  nor do i owe you a response to your in-game message.

cheers.
Your right.... you don't owe me anything. I just thought you may like to prove me wrong... it would be sooo easy... and you could throw it back up at me and show me how stupid I am. I just thought you would jump at the opportunity.

But hey, I understand...  Wink  
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2004, 09:45:07 PM »

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I have stayed up until 2AM speaking with fire.... no money
                 I usually get up 2 times at night to spend..... no money
                 
 
do you have a life? I mean i can understand fire like this, but an adult?
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2004, 09:50:02 PM »

hey dont talk about my age. i dont want him to stop throwing porn links at me.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2004, 09:51:13 PM »

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I have stayed up until 2AM speaking with fire.... no money
                 I usually get up 2 times at night to spend..... no money
                 
 
do you have a life? I mean i can understand fire like this, but an adult?
Oh yeah, adults don't stay up late.... sorry I forgot.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2004, 09:57:38 PM »

2 AM seems quite excessive unless you have a job where you go at noon or the afternoon

and getting up twice to spend TBG? it seems like you are a little obssesed with this game. I like KoC too, but i can't think of many people who would get up twice during the night or early morning to spend this. If i was up at that time i would concentrate on falling asleep, not KoC.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2004, 11:10:28 PM »

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2 AM seems quite excessive unless you have a job where you go at noon or the afternoon

and getting up twice to spend TBG? it seems like you are a little obssesed with this game. I like KoC too, but i can't think of many people who would get up twice during the night or early morning to spend this. If i was up at that time i would concentrate on falling asleep, not KoC.
Well, i'm not alone... apparently d1skreet does the same thing.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2004, 11:26:03 PM »

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OK, that's not hard evidence... but I figured with the accusations of Orc Army members cheating, I would just like to point out this strong possibility.
1) if you get up during the night to spend, you have no life and are hopelessly addicted
2) get a real job
3) what strong evidence?

On extension of 3, the only evidence that exists is your own observation on a single day. It is not an observation carried out over several weeks, not even several days. Your observations on one single day alone means aboslutely nothing. And the accusations that Orc Army is cheating is irrelevant, because your claim has nothing to DO with Orc Army. You use it, instead, as an implication, as a way to promote your personal theory that diskreet uses a buyer. The fact that you sent him messages is yet also an irrelevant and easily disproven piece of "evidence." Many times I have recieved new messages, yet when I log on to my base, the message is not highlighted. Only when I navigate away from my base do the new message notices come up. While it is unlikely that this would happen on repeated counts of the armory window being refreshed, the fact that this bug occurs is alone enough to discredit that claim. As a side note, your messages mean nothing. My messages mean nothing. A player may choose to or choose not to answer his/her inbox messages. Hell I ignore most of mine. And has it occured to you that one might not be in the best mood to check one's inbox messages at 2AM?  :hmmm:

Next time you bring evidence, think of the counterarguments yourself and maybe you'll save us all some time.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2004, 11:58:15 PM »

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1) if you get up during the night to spend, you have no life and are hopelessly addicted
2) get a real job
3) what strong evidence?

On extension of 3, the only evidence that exists is your own observation on a single day. It is not an observation carried out over several weeks, not even several days. Your observations on one single day alone means aboslutely nothing. And the accusations that Orc Army is cheating is irrelevant, because your claim has nothing to DO with Orc Army. You use it, instead, as an implication, as a way to promote your personal theory that diskreet uses a buyer. The fact that you sent him messages is yet also an irrelevant and easily disproven piece of "evidence." Many times I have recieved new messages, yet when I log on to my base, the message is not highlighted. Only when I navigate away from my base do the new message notices come up. While it is unlikely that this would happen on repeated counts of the armory window being refreshed, the fact that this bug occurs is alone enough to discredit that claim. As a side note, your messages mean nothing. My messages mean nothing. A player may choose to or choose not to answer his/her inbox messages. Hell I ignore most of mine. And has it occured to you that one might not be in the best mood to check one's inbox messages at 2AM?  :hmmm:

Next time you bring evidence, think of the counterarguments yourself and maybe you'll save us all some time.
1) if you get up during the night to spend, you have no life and are hopelessly addicted
    Like I said... guess i'm not alone

2) get a real job
    Where does that come from? Cause my job is in front of a computer is not good enough?

3) what strong evidence?
    Please reread my post. This is not one days observations. As I said, I have been online as late as 2AM speaking with fire... and he had no money. This has always been the case. Since this war has started, I have been watching him... he is one of the few members you have that is worthwhile for me to farm, so don't think I haven't been checking him very often. And he never has had over 500K gold.

    I have also noticed after a turn, his gold dropped... but not below 167,800... it was like he decided to spend 'some' of it... but not all... why would he not spend all? Then, 10 minutes later when I check, his gold has been spent below the 167,800 mark.... next turn, same pattern.

    So, like I said... I don't have hard evidence... but the observations sure to point to him using an autobuyer. But you can refuse to believe it.... like I said, he could prove me wrong easily, but I guess just giving me theories of what may be happening is more compelling?

I have singled him out, because he specifically said most of the attacks on him were from fake accounts. When he posted the names, I could see right away, they were not fake accounts. If somebody is gonna complain about people cheating to attack them, and they appear to be cheating themselves, I will call them on it. The only thing he can say back is "I don't have to prove anything to you"... I would use that same exact line if I couldn't simply respond to a message at 2AM when i'm spending my gold using a script.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2004, 12:31:33 AM »

excuse me, but i only posted those in addition to those already posted by opper.  not to mention the (not active) accounts that attacked me.  but all's good.  i see you found some more live bodies to attack me.  may i trouble you to ask exactly which alliances are helping you out?
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2004, 12:47:07 AM »

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i see you found some more live bodies to attack me.  may i trouble you to ask exactly which alliances are helping you out?
I don't know? I'm the council member who doesn't deal with allies. I didn't want any allies. I wanted to be completely neutral, not help others and not ask for help from others... but the other council members felt differently, so I let them deal with keeping track of alliances.

I just put the word out to some players I speak with on AIM.
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