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Title: New Computer
Post by: Lord Lanair on August 18, 2005, 07:04:12 AM
Haha!  Lanair has a new powerbook G4 (laptop) to take to school! And it only cost like $ 2,500.  Coupled with my 100 gigabyte external hard drive, I might now have enough space for all of my music.  :D

So does anyone else find mac OS 10.4 fun and easy to use?    :)  


Title: New Computer
Post by: smi256 on August 18, 2005, 07:18:50 AM
MAC?   I have no idea, MAC...
External hard drives are the way to go when using laptops.  Internals are really $$$ (apparently so are network drives).
 


Title: New Computer
Post by: Arkanor on August 23, 2005, 11:43:15 PM
Huh?  Internals aren't THAT expensive... I'm buying a Dell in December and an 80 gig internal hd (current hd is 26, so 80 is niiiiiice) comes for only about 90 USD more.  


Title: New Computer
Post by: smi256 on August 24, 2005, 08:16:56 AM
:mellow:  I'm talking about laptop HDs...
I have two Western Digital 120GB "normal" HDs (internal 3.5" IDE), $50 each.  It's more then that, but a mail-in rebate brings it down.  All the space is so that I don't need to burn my DLs so often; but when I do, it takes a lot of time.
Note: I have no more money, I "wasted" it on my computer... :paranoid:
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Speaking of wasting money!! The Fry's Ads have some WD HDs
250GB UDMA/100 (normal) $120-30-20=$70
250GB SATA $140-30-20=$90
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I have also found that 10GB is not enough for an OS partition... :( all thanks to VS.NET, MSDN and Guild Wars...


Title: New Computer
Post by: Arkanor on August 26, 2005, 05:28:31 AM
I know, Smi.  My bad, I should have been more specific - I'm planning on buying a Dell laptop.  I completely agree with you about externals having the most space, though.  With a firewire you don't notice a difference.


Title: New Computer
Post by: smi256 on September 04, 2005, 11:37:00 PM
What I want to know is how to find out the total run time of a computer.  Maybe CPU run time, cuz mine should be burnt to a crisp by now... :miffed:
My other computer sounds like it's power supply fan is going to die (the silly old thing is 250Watt I think)


Title: New Computer
Post by: Guest:perdition on September 12, 2005, 09:52:42 PM
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Haha!  Lanair has a new powerbook G4 (laptop) to take to school! And it only cost like $ 2,500.  Coupled with my 100 gigabyte external hard drive, I might now have enough space for all of my music.  :D

So does anyone else find mac OS 10.4 fun and easy to use?    :)
no.  i have to use it for my graphic design course and i can't stand it <_<  


Title: New Computer
Post by: Lord Lanair on September 15, 2005, 07:15:10 AM
Bah, Mac OS is easier to use than Windows... at least for a person who's used macs his entire life.  Just remember that macs have a great help function, or at least they did when I was 14.   LOL  


Title: New Computer
Post by: smi256 on September 15, 2005, 05:54:46 PM
PC programs can have a great help function, but only if the people that made the program made a great help function... it's in the quality of the make.
Sometimes it pisses me off when I (in the few times that I do) press F1 for the help menu... and don't get one :huh:  :blink:  :(  <_<  :angry: jerks. :hmmm:


Title: New Computer
Post by: SS on September 15, 2005, 05:56:26 PM
The best system is one that doesn't require you to use the help section, because everything is instantly intuitive. :P

And I've not yet encountered an OS or application where that is the case, but I'll make one one day and become instantly rich and famous. :D


Title: New Computer
Post by: Hornet on September 15, 2005, 07:39:09 PM
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The best system is one that doesn't require you to use the help section, because everything is instantly intuitive. :P

And I've not yet encountered an OS or application where that is the case, but I'll make one one day and become instantly rich and famous. :D

Invent pen and paper. :P

(Ye Gods, this is my first utterly useless post.)


Title: New Computer
Post by: Guest:perdition on September 15, 2005, 09:24:21 PM
I don't need help with it.  I just find it completely counter intuitive (and dorky looking)


Title: New Computer
Post by: smi256 on September 20, 2005, 09:00:16 PM
My friend came to me with a computer problem, he wanted a new 300GB HD installed.  I thought it was just going to be a jumper problem, but no… he got it in himself and used the Seagate CD… lets just say that the thing crashed and both HDs were no more…
I did a data recovery on his old HD (turns out it was the cause of the crash, I think) and in stalled the new OS on the new HD.  Turns out that the maximum size of a hard drive is 137GB, I updated his BIOS and ended up installing SP2.  now he has a 280GB some odd HD. Sweet :cool:
What I want to know is, how can the OS see the whole HD without installing SP2 or some annoying software.  Is there something like a regedit method or patch?

[Update]  (I'm trying not to double post here) ;)
I get to make a new compy for my friend’s sis. It’s not going to be a gaming machine, but that’ll make it all the more fun to see what kind of quality parts I can get for (almost) as little money are possible.  I figure if I can get the pieces I was looking at, the price will be some thing like, a little over $260 (tax and all), and I don’t think there are any mail-in rebates, I hate those (those ATI bastards better give me my $50)
If this doesn’t convince most (if not everyone) that I’m a computer geek, I don’t know what will


Title: New Computer
Post by: RipperRoo on September 20, 2005, 10:13:23 PM
$260? Isn't that like £150? Grats if you can get enough stuff to make a PC with that!


Title: New Computer
Post by: SS on September 21, 2005, 05:58:34 PM
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What I want to know is, how can the OS see the whole HD without installing SP2 or some annoying software.  Is there something like a regedit method or patch?
If you partition it first (using a non-Windows partition tool, obviously) then it should work.

Knoppix can come in handy for situations like this - it's a Linux distrubution that runs off a bootable CD, so you can easily partition the HD without having to worry about using it...



And yeah, $260 seems like an incredibly small amount to build a computer with - although if you can use an existing monitor/mouse/etc it might be okay.


Title: New Computer
Post by: smi256 on September 21, 2005, 06:34:09 PM
ya sorry, that doesn't pay for much in the way of peripherals (no mouse, keyboard, CD/DVD, monitor, video card) because she already has those.  The video anyways is coming from my friend's old compy GForce4 MX 440, way more then she needs to play her Maple Story and a dozen or two web browsers.

Mobo & CPU combo: $70
AMD Sempron 2.8GHz, PC Chips M848ALU
Heat Sink and Fan: $20
HD: $50 (it might be lower)
WD 120GB
Case & Power Supply: $40
Antec, 350W
RAM: $80
1GB PC3200 Dual DDR, 400MHz


my friend might want to get better stuff and brand, I don't mind if he does, it's not my money :hehe:  


Title: New Computer
Post by: Hornet on September 21, 2005, 09:47:22 PM
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Knoppix can come in handy for situations like this - it's a Linux distrubution that runs off a bootable CD, so you can easily partition the HD without having to worry about using it...

Yay, someone else Linux savvy.  I also like Slax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAX) for recovery, as it's a little more comprehensive, unless you happen to have the Knoppix / Gnoppix cheat list in front of you.  (And yes, there's a version called Kill Bill).

Don't forget DSL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn_Small_Linux), as it's just hillarious to watch their reactions when you pull an OS out of your keyring.


Title: New Computer
Post by: SS on September 22, 2005, 06:01:10 PM
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AMD Sempron 2.8GHz, PC Chips M848ALU
Ick. Heard bad things about PC Chips in the past... dunno if they've changed recently, but I wouldn't recommend it incase they haven't.


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Gah! Why is it always so difficult to figure out which file to download for Linux software...
http://dsl.thegeekery.com/current/ (http://dsl.thegeekery.com/current/)
Do you need seperate installs to run from inside Windows and from a bootable pen drive, or can one version do both? (and if so, which one?)

...

Well it is possible to do it, but you need to go all round the houses...
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It is also possible to get a "5-way" install up and running, and this lets you boot dsl either natively or via QEMU from inside Windows or another Linux OS.  For this method, first download dsl.iso and then burn a DSL cd-r disk.  Then boot into DSL and choose Apps -> Tools -> Install to Pendrive -> USBHDD install (I prefer it to USBZIP unless your BIOS only supports USBZIP booting). Then after compeleted, download the 5-way install script from the dsl download site and run it on your pendrive. It will then download and install the embedded version.
Why do I need to waste a cd-r - couldn't they just do a version that installs directly to pendrive and does the 5-way thing all in one? :hmmm:

Oh well, hopefully in not very long I'll be able to carry a whole operating system around in my pocket. :D


Title: New Computer
Post by: Hornet on September 22, 2005, 08:30:48 PM
You could have used a CD-RW...  I run mine from a business card CD, which is what DSL was designed for after all.

Talking of the critters, my bootable pendrive features an entirely home-brew LFS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_From_Scratch) build (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/), has been heavily encrypted, and contains a few databases, updated regularly.  And from that you should be able to work out what I made it for (the pendrive is jet black, as a further hint).

And you might want to split this topic into a new Linux one, as it is certainly an area worthy of discussion.  Heck, we might convert someone. (Yellowdog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowdog), Lanair?)


Title: New Computer
Post by: SS on September 23, 2005, 01:27:48 PM
I don't have any CD-RWs :(

A business card disc is a better choice, because more machines will support booting from it, and it's probably easier to carry round (since I almost always have my wallet with me)
Going to be ordering some hardware soon (printer, dvd±r/w), so I'll get one/some then.


Does LFS allow you to/help you with creating custom GUIs? If so, maybe my perfectly intuitive OS is a step closer... :D


Title: New Computer
Post by: Hornet on September 23, 2005, 10:44:19 PM

The best one for that is Gentoo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo) ( also here (http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml) ).  To go further than that, you'll need to grab the KDE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE) manuals and Use the Source.


Title: New Computer
Post by: smi256 on September 24, 2005, 02:37:46 AM
/me wonders what SS and Hornet are up to :huh:
I'd be willing to try and convert to SS's OS :cool: (I've never used Linux before)