Title: Christmas Post by: underruler on December 13, 2004, 02:21:42 AM Discuss.
Title: Christmas Post by: Lord Lanair on December 13, 2004, 02:48:09 AM Merry Christmas all!
And whatever else. :) Title: Christmas Post by: Guest on December 13, 2004, 03:49:43 AM I'm curious as to why athiests bother celebrating christmas.
Title: Christmas Post by: underruler on December 13, 2004, 03:59:00 AM Quote I'm curious as to why athiests bother celebrating christmas. That's my beef too. I mean like these people don't have a god and are probably priding themselves as anti-conformists, but then Christmas comes around and they're like "OMG Merry Christmas!" when Christmas actually means Christ's birth really.And it weird how all these other religions do the same thing. It's so fucking American. Title: Christmas Post by: Guest on December 13, 2004, 07:41:17 AM I was thinking of ruggo. Last time I checked he was an athiest and he celebrates christmas.
Title: Christmas Post by: mole on December 13, 2004, 07:35:41 PM im an athiest and i celebrate xmas, why? its an important mental break that psychologically does a lot of good, it makes millions of people happy, it brings lots of people together in many shapes and forms and its a great excuse to get things bought for you. besides apartf rom what any hardcore christian will tell you xmas is all about marketing, sales and 'the corporation', its no longer a celebration of jesus' birth (whether it happened or not) it s a comercialised holiday like every other 'day' there's a special label by on then calendar
Title: Christmas Post by: Guest:SS on December 13, 2004, 07:40:06 PM Quote I mean like these people don't have a god and are probably priding themselves as anti-conformists, but then Christmas comes around and they're like "OMG Merry Christmas!" when Christmas actually means Christ's birth really. And it weird how all these other religions do the same thing. It's so fucking American. December 25th = Pagan celebration of Yule. Jesus' birth = Sometime in Autumn. (That's "Fall" to you odd US people.) The only reason Christians celebrate Christmas on the 25th December is because the Roman's wanted to encourage more people to convert to their new religion. Likewise with Easter (Eostre/Ostara) and Halloween (Samhein) - both Pagan festivals absorbed by the Church in order to gather more followers. The reason that Atheists/etc celebrate them is two-fold: 1) The new World Religion of Commercialism has now taken them over also. 2) In many places, Christmas has evolved into a family tradition, rather than a religious/commercial one. 3) It's boring sitting being grumpy when everyone else is celebrating. :santa: Title: Christmas Post by: Perdition on December 14, 2004, 01:28:19 AM I enjoy being grumpy. People leave you alone when you're grumpy.
Title: Christmas Post by: Galmort on December 14, 2004, 01:53:51 AM Quote I'm curious as to why athiests bother celebrating christmas. you are?...cuz i'm not, thats an easy one: presents. greedy greedy athiests... oh and awwwwwwwwwwwwwww fire, i <3 the christmas goomba :santa: Title: Christmas Post by: mole on December 14, 2004, 02:04:24 AM hey im not greedy, im buying all these presents for people out of
Title: Christmas Post by: Galmort on December 14, 2004, 02:35:43 AM hehe i meant to say more...but i got lazy...
as a national holiday, it isn't observed as a catholic celebration. Over the years it has just become more and more a part of society, like thanksgiving. thanksgiving isn't derived from any religion, yet its still a national holiday.... heh, i'm kinda rambling, that doesn't make for a great argument there, but meh. and good for you mole! your so nice heh heh Title: Christmas Post by: underruler on December 14, 2004, 02:41:54 AM What about Easter? Knowledge is so confusing.
Title: Christmas Post by: Lord Lanair on December 14, 2004, 04:54:41 AM I agree with Gal- it's the presents. :D
SS- isn't the real time of Jesus's birth speculated to be in spring (I know it wasn't winter, but only have a 33% chance of getting it right). :) Title: Christmas Post by: underruler on December 14, 2004, 05:20:31 AM Quote I agree with Gal- it's the presents. :D Well, yea seeing as the shepherds saw the stars in the night sky, I think they concluded it should be spring b/c it's cloudy(?) wherever they were in winter. SS- isn't the real time of Jesus's birth speculated to be in spring (I know it wasn't winter, but only have a 33% chance of getting it right). :) Title: Christmas Post by: Perdition on December 14, 2004, 07:31:09 AM Thanks gal. :)
I think I remember reading that thanksgiving was created because George washington wanted to make an American holiday. Title: Christmas Post by: Guest:SS on December 14, 2004, 02:32:51 PM Quote SS- isn't the real time of Jesus's birth speculated to be in spring (I know it wasn't winter, but only have a 33% chance of getting it right). :) You might be right. It's definitely either Spring or Autumn, and I was 70% sure it was Autumn, but I might have got it wrong. Title: Christmas Post by: mole on December 14, 2004, 05:36:12 PM not sure if it gets that cloudy in the middle east, just incase you dont know your geography israel is on the most eastern edge of the meditearanian
Title: Christmas Post by: Lord Lanair on December 15, 2004, 03:59:47 AM Well, I know the summer is clear and hot down there, at least! LOL
Title: Christmas Post by: Galmort on December 16, 2004, 01:01:57 AM I work christmas day! :o Time and a half at least, but still...
Title: Christmas Post by: Arkanor on December 16, 2004, 08:09:05 AM Quote im an athiest and i celebrate xmas, why? its an important mental break that psychologically does a lot of good, it makes millions of people happy, it brings lots of people together in many shapes and forms and its a great excuse to get things bought for you. besides apartf rom what any hardcore christian will tell you xmas is all about marketing, sales and 'the corporation', its no longer a celebration of jesus' birth (whether it happened or not) it s a comercialised holiday like every other 'day' there's a special label by on then calendar Nah, you just want the presents. ;) Galmort - Ouch. Time and a half would definately not make up for it for me. Did you have a say, or did they just stick up the work assignment before you walked in? Title: Christmas Post by: Guest:SS on December 16, 2004, 02:14:24 PM Time and a half is regular weekend pay here (I think).
Christmas on a weekend should be double-time! Title: Christmas Post by: mole on December 16, 2004, 07:26:22 PM ive already forked out £52.50 on prezzies :(
Title: Christmas Post by: Galmort on December 16, 2004, 10:26:28 PM Quote Galmort - Ouch. Time and a half would definately not make up for it for me. Did you have a say, or did they just stick up the work assignment before you walked in? no, i crossed it off and said i couldn't work, but i figured i would have to. thats basically why i was hired, for the holiday rush, so they didn't care if i wanted to work or not heh heh Title: Christmas Post by: Lord Lanair on December 17, 2004, 04:19:47 AM Uh... what's time and a half? :miffed:
Title: Christmas Post by: Arkanor on December 17, 2004, 04:28:40 AM 1.5 your regular wage. Usually on holidays, but I guess over in Britain they have it on weekends too. Heh... not so in the US. :miffed:
Title: Christmas Post by: Galmort on December 17, 2004, 05:14:43 AM nope, not here :(
Title: Christmas Post by: Guest:SS on December 17, 2004, 02:09:52 PM You only get it at weekends if you've done enough hours during the week for the weekends to be overtime. I think. Saturday was 1.25, Sunday was 1.5
This is all memories from over four years ago. Title: Christmas Post by: Rug on December 17, 2004, 08:13:13 PM Quote im an athiest and i celebrate xmas, why? its an important mental break that psychologically does a lot of good, it makes millions of people happy, it brings lots of people together in many shapes and forms and its a great excuse to get things bought for you. besides apartf rom what any hardcore christian will tell you xmas is all about marketing, sales and 'the corporation', its no longer a celebration of jesus' birth (whether it happened or not) it s a comercialised holiday like every other 'day' there's a special label by on then calendar Ditto. As an aside, why do you celebrate birthdays? Same question, as there's no real reason to do either. You just do, mainly because everyone expects you to. Title: Christmas Post by: mole on December 17, 2004, 08:25:03 PM i dont think thats quite along the same lines but hey, i enjoy the attention
Title: Christmas Post by: Rug on December 19, 2004, 12:11:48 AM Quote i dont think thats quite along the same lines but hey, i enjoy the attention Sure it is. Would you celebrate christmas if noone else did? Would you celebrate your birthday if noone else did? Title: Christmas Post by: mole on December 19, 2004, 12:34:20 AM i dont 'celebrate' my birthday any more than i celebrate eating and my view on thats pretty drab, its become a chore i just dont enjoy it anymore. xmas is a means to an end, if itll make me happy then let it me, right now i aint happy so it isnt working, christmas doesnt feel like christmas anymore.
Title: Christmas Post by: Lord Lanair on December 19, 2004, 03:19:17 AM Quote right now i aint happy so it isnt working, christmas doesnt feel like christmas anymore. Funny, I feel the same way for some strange reason... :miffed: Title: Christmas Post by: underruler on December 19, 2004, 11:41:10 AM Quote Funny, I feel the same way for some strange reason... :miffed: idd Title: Christmas Post by: mole on December 19, 2004, 03:56:14 PM whats that mean? you agree?
Title: Christmas Post by: RipperRoo on December 19, 2004, 06:09:08 PM It means indeed.
Title: Christmas Post by: Guest on December 19, 2004, 08:12:00 PM That's because you're all depressing teenagers who are too busy moping about to enjoy the free gifts and overpriced wine
Title: Christmas Post by: underruler on December 20, 2004, 12:44:30 AM It's b/c Christmas is a capitalist holiday and no longer retains its original meaning to most people.
Title: Christmas Post by: Lord Lanair on December 20, 2004, 05:09:23 AM Quote That's because you're all depressing teenagers who are too busy moping about to enjoy the free gifts and overpriced wine Sounds right. Couple that with college stuffs and the vicious cycle of WoW playing, and I am totally out of it. :mellow: |