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What with all the grumbling about the beta and the lack of new features, nobody seems to have actually sat down and thought about what they would actually want to see in the real age.  And we need a new topic.  So, whap your ideas here.

My main grumble is that the race bonuses are too clear-cut, and there's no overlap between them.  What if the bonuses were as follows:

Human: 25% income, 10% covert.
Elf: 25% covert, 10% strike.
Dwarf: 25% defence, 10% income.
Orc: 25% strike, 10% defence.

And it goes without saying that sabotage should be brought back, otherwise the covert bonus is nigh-useless.  And spies could be able to sabotage more than weapons - imagine if you could assassinate mercenaries!  Although the spy should then run a higher risk of discovery...  Also, they should have the option for spies to remain in the enemy camp, providing daily reports on not just stats, but the times of battles and who they were against etc.  The spy should have a chance of being discovered when he tries to deliver his report.  There would have to be some kind of counter for this, similar to the old "check weapons for sabotage" function.

I want most of the KoC players to get smarter, the admin of KoC to get smarter and get a better work ethic on the game, I want them to fix miscellanious shit, and some other things. Its mainly the people I hate and god my finger hurts.

well my idea for introducing soldier morale was received very well by the top players and beta testers way back when age2 was still about half way.  the admins said they would consider it, but that's around when they started to do less and less.

about the check for spies within camp idea:
personally, my ideal formula is
Spies * ( EnemyCA / YourCA ) * ( EnemyCL / YourCL ) / 24  * 100%= % chance of getting caught

CA=Covert Action
CL=Covert Level
A server-wide automatic check every hour(simultaneous with a turn), where basically all the server has to do is roll a 100-sided dice(from 0 to 99) and if the number turns up less than or equal to the % you automatically capture and kill a spy(perhaps a random number of spies, if there's multiple) in your camp.

Example:
You: 10000CA at 5CL with 10 spies sent
Enemy: 5000CA at 4CL
10 * 0.5 * 0.8 / 24 = 16.7% chance of your spy(ies) getting caught

You: 5000CA at 5CL with 3 spies sent
Enemy: 5000CA at 5CL
3 * 1 * 1 / 24 = 12% chance of your spy(ies) getting caught

You: 2000CA at 4CL with 1 spies sent
Enemy: 5000CA at 5CL
1 * 2.5 * 1.25 / 24 = 130% chance of your spy(ies) getting caught

I'll leave the analysis up to you, but I think it's fair. (Btw, if % is greater than 100%, just treat it as 100%)

Instead of of having the option to install adware on your computer to get rid of the ads, they should have it so people can pay with paypal or the likes and then by paying: the ads are removed for their account.

Also, alliances should be implemented within the game, so alliance control would be available (adding people, removing people, marking other alliances within the game as enemy, friendly, neutral,..) then by doing so, when you view someone's stats page, you'd see what alliance they are from. It works well in other games, I don't see why it wouldn't here :)

maybe because in other games, the admins actually care about and work on their existing codebase to.. get this...  improve their game.    :o  

We should write a petition to the admins or something to get *them* to be a bit more active then. Or if not, I could see if I could find some game-admins/ex-game-admins out there that I've been friends with in the past who might want to take over this game :P But I hear a ton of moaning and groaning going on, so apparently the admins here really are incompetent :P

Watch this space. ;)

Handicaps! Or something of the like...

Humans: +25% Income, -25% Covert
Orcs: +25% Attack, -25% Defense
Dwarves: +25% Defense, -25% Income
Elves: +25% Covert, -25% Attack

I've played a few games where this is implemented, and its done pretty successfully.  

pheh, as if the admins even care remotely about us folks...
they get their advertising money, they probably don't care about anything else.

I'd like to see no sabotage in the game, and the reimplementation of the orc kill bonus.   :)  

:blink:

Your reasoning being?

i want Age One with all the current upgrades at a lower cost.  i also want unit production to be cheaper again, and more turn gold (that actually comes all the time <_<)

We don't like orcs?

I want fluctuating prices... and 3000 knives <_<

:fireball/l:  :orcdie:  :fireball/r:

Nah we don't like no stinkin' orcs :P

The orc kill bonus allowed Orcs to cause additional casualties - they ate them!

Why would he want it back?

Oh...I thought it meant we killed more orcs...I wasn't here for Age 1 ja know.

I think it was Age 0, actually. They removed it for Age 1.

nah, it was there in age 1--I remember, that was when my friend got me into the game and the orc kill bonus was definitely there. My friends and I each had several alt accounts at the time, and at least 1 or 2 were orcs for revenge on people  :)

*sigh* ahhhh, those were the days.....

Because the orc kill bonus was worthless, and fitting the orcs' character. LOL

Basically, I promote anything that wil return the game to Age 1 style.  :D  

age1 was the best age i remember playing.  definitely.  :thumbs-up:

I remember actually caring about leaving my account untended for over 2 hours.  Ah... the good old days.  LOL  

*agrees with lanair*  

I want the option to delete *ALL[/b][/u][/i][/size]* messages in the Inbox. Instead of just the option to delete one at a time.......

maybe they could add some other spying options like kill people.
maybe they could make that the winner in a fight gets some soldiers trained, maybe the same amount that he killed.  

Oooh, now that is a good idea!

When soldiers fight, they are blatantly becoming more experienced, so there should be a chance of regular troops becoming trained attack/defense troops after each battle.



*steals idea for FoN* ;­)

multiple rankings for soldiers:
not just attack/general/defense soldiers and mercenaries but,
Elite Guardsman
Defender
Watchman
Regular
Recruitee
Sergeant
Elite Legion

...
then again with the current game system, i have a hard time imagining how the above could be fit into KoC...

and yes, i like Age 1 the best... and probably Age 0 if I was there as well... because people were far more innocent in a sense... instead of so into getting clicks and everything...
the orc bonus in Age 1 was simply a 25% increased chance of casualties occuring in a battle, which meant also a chance that the orc attacker suffers increased frequency of casualties... still foggy about that part...
I remember loviaroth_cl and others arguing about it in GUA waayyyyy back in that age... ah, good times.

Hmm... I wonder what happened to lovi and the rest of those guys?  :miffed:  

lovi quit in Age 2, i think...

I never saw any cases were orcs got more kills then anyone else....

Orcs can have a kill bonus for all I care because they're gonna need every advantage they canget when I come after them.
                                           Your Brother In Arms,
   Alpha _Orc_Slayer_

Age three isn't here... and I've been gone for how long? <_<
 :alien: <--KOC admins --> :blink:  

I doubt they will ever come up with a *real* age 3 since it's been almost a FOUR month beta. <_<

yeah, theyll probably just skip to the 2 year age 4 beta.  <_<  

That messed up and meant orcs took more casualties than everyone else LOL

Stupid admins :sheep:  

For Age 3, I would like to see it last only 3 months. Then reset it... even if nothing has changed. The first part when everyone is trying to build as fast as they can is the fun part. When you are trying to get that 3 mil DA and you get sabbed to the stone age and have to start over... ah, that brings up feelings! That makes the game exciting!

I shall show all the anti orc players much love.... I hope my CA gets built quicker then yours  LOL  

Meh... I'd like the age to last at least 6 months, as long as we finally get some quality in the programming.  LOL  

HAH! Good one! Quality programming from the koc admins? *doubles over laughing*  LOL   :D  :P  

:hmmm:   It's a possibility  :P  

I'd like to see a way to sort out the races since we can only attack orcs.  I would make things a lot easier.

I'd settle for sabbing back, but a better kind of sabbing than the Age 2 type.  It was too easy for people with huge spy skills to own everyone else (witness Relentless!).

Uh...I'm not going to re-read the whole thread, but I think spies should be given the abilitie to assasinate people.  And then maybe there woule be more levels of people besides spies, defensive troops, and offensive troops.  There should be some sort of advisors to the king or something *shrugs*