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Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hornet on April 01, 2004, 01:03:03 PM

I'm considering making a skin to advertise a total revamp of my website, but I'm not sure which of the two I should make it for.  WinAmp is far more flexible, but not everyone has it and there are thousands of other skins out there.  Most people have WMP, and there are less alternate skins available for it, but all versions except the very latest are restrictive.  But technical shebangs aside, which do you use, and which do you prefer?  


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hyvry1 on April 01, 2004, 02:27:50 PM
I use both but prefer winamp, i like the nice features you get and the vast array of skins that are available.  


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 01, 2004, 06:30:51 PM
I use both, but definitely prefer winamp. I only really use wmp for videos. And only the old school media player, they new one is crap.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: SS on April 01, 2004, 11:33:12 PM
I use WMP only, because it's good (*thumps frag*), and until recently Winamp's idea of a skin was a coloured rectangle with tiny buttons.

I haven't looked at the [new] Winamp skinning SDK, but how is it more flexible?
You can do practically anything with WMP skins, can you not?


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: evilknight on April 01, 2004, 11:37:16 PM
i prefer wmp, because ss told me to.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hyvry1 on April 02, 2004, 12:12:50 AM
1(http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/WINAMP1.jpg)2(http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/WINAMP2.jpg)
3(http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/WINAMP3.jpg)
There are more buttons that do other stuff aswell.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Perdition on April 02, 2004, 12:16:17 AM
do they have the  thing where you look like your  spiraling into a vortex?


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: smi256 on April 02, 2004, 02:27:54 AM
I use winamp for music (I'm really not sure why), and WMPClasic for everything else (I hate wasteful programs)

I've never seem thoughs skins Hyvry, too much  :blink:  


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 02, 2004, 05:14:48 AM
wimamp3 sucks. i use 2.x. i think nullsoft knows it sucks as well as theyre still producing new versions of 2

oh yeah, almost forgot.... *thumps ss*


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: SS on April 02, 2004, 05:21:51 AM
*kicks frag*

At least 3 has an almost decent interface (because it copies WMP :P)
2 is just ugly and tiny and crappy.

I thought they'd moved onto Winamp 5 now?
(Skipping version four because Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5 <_<)


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 02, 2004, 05:40:07 AM
have they? perhaps i should look into this.

yep, released 5.03 2 days ago. i wonder if its any good.....


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hyvry1 on April 02, 2004, 06:06:31 AM
I use version 5.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: GandalfTheOld on April 02, 2004, 06:41:53 AM
i use WinAmp 2.8(?) for audio/music
i use mplayer2.exe for video files.

and i don't really see a need to change that... if anything, i move on to VirtualDub for video files if mplayer fails

what i'd like to ask is, what is the poll asking for? i see the choices, but need a clearer question...
and i won't be able to choose either if the actual question was "WinAmp or WMP for all audio/video?"


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: smi256 on April 02, 2004, 06:44:31 AM
I'm running version 2 I think...
though it might have version 1 somewhere, or some such really old version


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 02, 2004, 06:48:32 AM
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I use version 5.
blah. nothing special.

*stabs ss*


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: GandalfTheOld on April 02, 2004, 07:03:59 AM
actually, now that i'm thinking about it, i preferred virtualdub over mplayer2.exe before for the most part because of all the video-editing tools
the main problem is that you can't watch in full screen mode, as far as i can remember

and i just don't see the need to use mplayer when listening to music if i can play it just as well with WinAmp,  and i mean without all the crap, unnecessary tools, unnecessary load on the comp, etc.  which is exactly the same reason for preferring mplayer2.exe over the newer versions of WMP.

why in the world do you need a "Media Guide"? "Premium Services"?  All you need to do is listen/watch, nothing else!


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: smi256 on April 02, 2004, 07:14:35 AM
they just more sh--, er, stuff


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: RipperRoo on April 02, 2004, 01:54:01 PM
I use WMP as I cant be arsed to transfer all of my playlists and music over to WinAmp and also WinAmp cant stream videos?


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: SS on April 02, 2004, 03:29:34 PM
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why in the world do you need a "Media Guide"? "Premium Services"?  All you need to do is listen/watch, nothing else!
Now Playing > Obviously useful.
Media Guide > Poo. But only loads when you select it.
Copy from CD > Again, useful.
Media Library > Very useful for creating playlists.
Radio Tuner > [Same as Media Guide.]
Copy to CD or Device > Useful for people with mp3 players, etc.
Premium Services > Boring. Never use.
Skin Chooser > Useful if you use different skins at different times.

5/8 aint bad.

*impales frag*


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 03, 2004, 05:31:31 AM
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Now Playing > Obviously useful.
and obviously in any mp3 program....

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Media Guide > Poo. But only loads when you select it.
its the default opening screen.

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Copy from CD > Again, useful.
i prefer mmjb or nero or creative playcenter.

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Media Library > Very useful for creating playlists.
i find it just as easy to add the files i want manually, although winamp 5 has a media library if you prefer that style.

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Radio Tuner > [Same as Media Guide.]
is worthless.

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Copy to CD or Device > Useful for people with mp3 players, etc.
fair enough.

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Skin Chooser > Useful if you use different skins at different times.
there's one in winamp as well. you can just access it via a pull down menu and select the one you want, or open a window and flip through all your skins.

*runs over ss with steam roller*


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: GandalfTheOld on April 03, 2004, 05:51:23 AM
well, the argument might end up between "all-encompassing program that has every feature you could think up" vs. "individual specialized programs that does best at its job"

if i'm to create a music/mp3 cd, i'd just use a cd burner prog that does that.
"now playing"? all you need is a playlist.
i've stayed with the same skin for WinAmp for several years now, i don't really intend on changing it, and i don't use any skin for WMP... because i don't use it(mplayer2, all the bare-bones) thus no need for the Skin Chooser

and for the most part, i keep my music organized into folders in a designated directory in my drive(several gigs of it), so i don't need a Music Library...

and oh yeah, i had a case where an entire set of music files weren't available because they were on a shared drive over on another comp, and the comp kept on trying to read them and basically went very slow, etc. whenever i tried to open the WMP Music Library when i used to try it...


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: RipperRoo on April 03, 2004, 12:31:03 PM
Use DivX to view movies..... Far far better than anything else out there.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: mole on April 03, 2004, 12:45:36 PM
quite frankly WMP gives me the shits i always and only use winamp or kazaa if its open


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: smi256 on April 03, 2004, 07:48:08 PM
wow, people use kazaa still...  damn you RIAA, but Kazaa is still the best place to DL programs/games .
doesn't kazaa just use WMP?  and doesn't the preview in Kazaa use whatever other program you tell it to use, like WMPC in my case?


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Uber Peasant on April 26, 2004, 07:44:52 PM
what about a radio?

or better yet... how about no music!

the calvanistic uber peasant has spoken


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: RipperRoo on April 26, 2004, 08:55:25 PM
Uber Peasant, stop reviving dead topics....


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Uber Peasant on April 29, 2004, 01:04:46 AM
but its fun because then we start something new on an old topic!


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hornet on April 30, 2004, 09:14:52 AM

Such as spam.  You've been around, what is it, fifteen days?  And you've got more posts than I have, and I've been here for months!  If you just post on whatever topic you stumble into, people aren't interested in what you've got to say.  And besides that, necromancy clutters the forums.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Uber Peasant on April 30, 2004, 10:05:24 PM
well i did read the topic and stuff and tended only to post in stuff i knew about (wythia, this) but whatever.

just because i post alot and maybe you dont does that matter? like if youve been here for months thats like a post a day isnt it? i just was active because there were a lot of topics


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hornet on May 04, 2004, 09:38:24 AM

Of course I'm not saying don't post, but you seem to have a tendancy to reply to anything and everything, and it's rarely on topic, or at least related to the current spam being discussed.  I'm also not saying that most people here don't spam *glares at almost everyone except SS* but it does clutter the forums up when the active topics are buried beneath piles of old ones to which the sole new reply reads something like:

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what about a radio?

or better yet... how about no music!

the calvanistic uber peasant has spoken

Which has no relation whatsoever to skins!  I suppose I'm a bit more sensitive to spam and the like than most people as I'm a mod on three other forums, and because it's a topic I started, but the whole point of forums is to have meaningful discussions where you're supposed to.  If you want to spam, there's a whole temple dedicated to the stuff in the Headquarters section!  And the HQs itself is for general chatter, so that's the place to be having it.
 


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Uber Peasant on May 04, 2004, 07:40:51 PM
fine fine fine, but i was new so how would i know waths good or bad spam?

does this count as clutter/ should i have PMed you this?

just tell me what and what not to do- easy as taht?


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Perdition on May 04, 2004, 11:22:58 PM
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Such as spam.  You've been around, what is it, fifteen days?  And you've got more posts than I have, and I've been here for months!
dont compare his posts to yours.  you dont post enoguh


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hyvry1 on May 04, 2004, 11:52:42 PM
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just tell me what and what not to do- easy as taht?
meh, just keep pushing the border until a mod tells you to stop (probably because you are triple/quadruple posting), then you will know the limit. :D


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Perdition on May 05, 2004, 12:20:04 AM
yeah.  you will get a warning before anything serious happens.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: Hornet on May 05, 2004, 12:14:00 PM

I only post when I have something useful to add to a discussion - I'm the last of a dying breed by the looks of things.


Title: WinAmp or WMP?
Post by: RipperRoo on May 05, 2004, 04:49:43 PM
There are others that do the same thing Hornet...