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The Great Alliance => The Great City => Topic started by: EvilTracy on February 18, 2004, 08:31:42 AM

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 18, 2004, 08:31:42 AM

I have declared the Bubba Wars on TGA, Not Orc Army wars. Because some of our newer members want to build up their accounts and get a good rank, we decided not to drag all of Orc Army into a war, but instead I have posted on several boards asking anyone if they would like to participate in a war..... I've been in the top 100 since the beta period started.... and i'm bored. I spend my money and buy stuff.... some of our members feel the same way... we have even had a couple quit KoC alltogether :(

So, to spice up life, TGA will soon have a handful of players from a few alliances attacking on a daily basis.

These wars will be called the "Bubba Wars". So far, it appears that biteme is gonna be the main competition... although diskreet has a nice sized army too! Oh, and LadyofLight.... you were a big part of the last wars with Orc Army, so, we will be sure you don't get forgotten either. LOL

... let the fun begin! :P

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Hyvry1 on February 18, 2004, 09:06:14 AM

yay i can help this age

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Rug on February 18, 2004, 11:10:33 AM

Crap idea, crap name. At least you're thorough.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: matt_the_shark on February 18, 2004, 02:56:59 PM

so...the newbieies are gonna attack us then? that's....annoying....:hmmm:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 18, 2004, 04:10:52 PM

my thoughts exactly

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 18, 2004, 04:54:46 PM

Exactly who are these other alliances?

And I think idea is crap too b/c I'm already getting raped every night for my gold. I wake up I have 30k gold and my TBG is almost 10k.

Besides that, this age *is* boring. Not much has changed besides the fact that there are more fortifications and less gold. I guess the admins think it's more exciting when we're down in the economy. <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: GandalfTheOld on February 18, 2004, 06:27:09 PM

don't forget that this isn't even a full-fledged "Age" persay...
it's a friggin beta, no one's given an award or prize for being top 10, and anything you do in beta doesn't transfer over to the real Age 3 except your officers and commanding chain

the main reason for this beta being so boring is because apparently the KoC admins haven't bothered to even come up with a new idea to be implemented into the game other than taking away the only useful ability of elves, lower your starting gold to nil, and halving TBG while leaving costs the same, giving the ones involved in multiple alliances and atop huge commanding chains the biggest advantage while every one else gets the crapper.
IF, by a miracle, the KoC admins had a new idea, they wouldn't have spent valuable time and resources on an idiotic thing like the tuberacer nor would they have bothered to take away pieces of the game. They'd have spent their time coding the things in and testing it out for REAL during beta.

But what do we get? Basically something resembling Age 1(turning back time, hah) with the added trouble of having to repair weapons.

From the looks of it, the admins seemed to assume we'd be satisfied with spiffy new fortications(that new people won't get for a LONG time) and made sure we'd be spending more time upgrading things (by lowering our rate of earning turn money) instead of amassing huge armies*cough*orc00 and lordstriker*cough*.

And with the guess-which-picture-is-correct-whoops-you-got-it-but-we're-still-penalizing-you clicking window and the basic code behind the armory and mercenary windows not changed, I'm imagining that all the auto-buyer programs out there still functions.

Sorry for this huge rant, but I simply had to get it out.

*looks back at the post... Strange, I started out using few punctuations and few capitalizations, I ended up with complete sentences... o_O*

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 18, 2004, 07:06:40 PM

Haha, you said it gandolf. This is age 2 with less money, no sabotage, and more fortifications.
BTW.... forget upgradingcompletely.... for most people, it will NEVER happen. Last age, I had over 6K dragons and about 1500-2000 skins.... and when I sold it all, I had about 1.4 billion I believe.... I think this hand of God thing is more than that.... just ridiculouse.... so, most of us are well aware that we won't come in number 1.... but at least we could shoot for getting all our upgrades.... racing with other members of our alliance to become fully upgraded... but now, that's not even an option.

I had one wild idea last night to make the use of 'probe' accounts less useful. I notice, it doesn't matter if I use 1 attack or 15.... soldiers killed and weapons damage is still about the same. I'm just curious if they have ever given any thought into making dead soldiers and weapons damage proportional to how many attacks you use.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Saladin on February 18, 2004, 07:18:26 PM

In Age 1 if you used more attacks you killed more soldiers but it apparently didn't carry over to the other ages

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: GandalfTheOld on February 18, 2004, 08:07:10 PM

What really irks me is that there haven't been a single change since the start of Age 3 Beta, except for the addition of a KoC shirt available. Big whoop.

If the admins aren't bothering to introduce possible new additions to the game system, they should have called what we have right now as Age 2 Circumcised, NOT Age 3 Public Beta. At least THAT reflects the truth of the situation.

A beta is a testing ground for new things to come. The least that they could do is tweak something weekly. In the meantime, I'm continually attracted toward other online games...

80k
160k Walled Town
20.48m....Drawbridge
327.68m
655.36m
Hand of God is...1.31b gold, if i counted right

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: matt_the_shark on February 18, 2004, 10:56:26 PM

O_O OMGWTFZORS 1.31 BILLION GOLD?!?!?!?!? :angry:

*goes to kill the admins who made it so expensive

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 18, 2004, 11:08:48 PM

Ikes, Biteme has gotten me good... he gave me the 5x1 and here were the results

His deaths vs mine
21 / 59
31 / 78
11 / 30
30 / 74
16 / 43

My attacks on him:::
My deaths vs His
13 / 23
9 / 16
6 / 14

Ouch, it hurts to add it up..... don't matter.... I will continue still :P (just don't drop me below the 167,800 per turn mark.... that's the milestone I was aiming for)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Arkanor on February 19, 2004, 01:52:01 AM

LOL... that much money would have challenged even Inktank. And so far NOBODY, not even Orc00, has beaten Ink for sheer fekking army size. 1.3 bilion for the hand of god... you'd be better off just buying a s**tload of weapons.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 19, 2004, 02:29:04 AM

you started it evil, but i'm sure as hell gona finish it

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Elvish_Dude on February 19, 2004, 02:31:53 AM

Instead of making age 3 better than age 2 they are kust making it worse.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 19, 2004, 03:25:12 AM

who is they?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 19, 2004, 03:25:33 AM

If the admins don't change something soon people are going to leave...ESPECIALLY b/c of the officer system where you get men just for having officers.

Actually a war might sound good right about now b/c there is nothing else to do. <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: nonskilled on February 19, 2004, 07:07:35 AM

Hey so wats going on like attack people that are officers of biteme? im lost.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 19, 2004, 07:10:10 AM

Um...no don't attack his officers...b/c Biter is us...Tracy is...not us.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 19, 2004, 07:49:27 AM

....
lets try a compaire contrast shall we

Biteme360: TGA
EvilTracy: not

Biteme360: not trying to start a war
Eviltracy: is trying to start a war

Biteme360: has been attacked by eviltracy lost 162
EvilTracy: has lost 312 troops due to Biteme360

Other people attacking Biteme360: None, except for one fake account, that did 0 attack damage when it attacked, and did not damage anything
eviltracy, you better make sure those posts went through, cause far as i can see, nothing happened

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: G1lbert on February 19, 2004, 09:46:39 AM

age 2 was boring, beta 3 is/was boring & mostlikely age 3 will be boring also..

so yeah..just euhm.. attack at will..

:P

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Gixxer on February 19, 2004, 03:33:24 PM

well, i had decided not to join this battle ..... mostly cuss i didnt like the reason that tga started war with us, so i didnt want to do the same thing.

but............if biteme 360 talks smack and thinks hes invicible i may have to rethink my plans.

by the way if men killed goes more by sa this time , you dont want me to become involved :)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 19, 2004, 04:11:51 PM

i didn't start this crap gixxer, but i will dam well get in the last punch, rank be damed

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 19, 2004, 08:08:06 PM

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i didn't start this crap gixxer, but i will dam well get in the last punch, rank be damed

Nah, not rank be damned.... because the higher your rank, the better you are doing. Higher rank means you have more money for SA, DA, and CA.... rank DOES make a difference.

I have over 7K soldiers.... you have a little over 3K.... I can buy a new 167,800 item each turn... you think 500 dead soldiers is gonna hurt me much? Think again. With all your officers, you should be able to grow huge...and with that, buy more items for your armory....

Yep, if you don't go by rank, I guess the only other thing you can go by is total worth of your armory? Or how much gold you accumulate in a set time through a combination of attacks and TBG? You know how KoC works.... it's all about the gold. He with the most gold (and soldiers to hold the items) will win. Death means nothing in this game if your still getting more gold and have an army to hold your items.

As for the attack by a fake account.... quit trying to throw that crap out again... I get them all the time... I don't accuse anybody of it though.... I think we have all figured out by now they don't do crap in this age... so why don't ya just enjoy them and be happy they don't do anything.

49 minutes ago I_Didnt_Want_To_Kill_Your_Mercs Attack defended 1 0 0 4 **** details
1 day ago FirstName___LastName Attack defended 1 0 0 0 715,384 details
4 days ago BlckBlade Attack defended 1 0 0 185 362,830 details
4 days ago Hi2u2 Attack defended 1 0 0 0 362,524 details
4 days ago lord_of_iceinglass Attack defended 15 0 0 5 218,184 details
5 days ago wouterken Attack defended 15 0 0 5 545,858 details
5 days ago hameer Attack defended 15 0 0 3 494,784 details
5 days ago snuiver Attack defended 1 0 0 5 841,968 details
5 days ago Naguma Attack defended 15 0 0 2 703,302 details
6 days ago Scoreagle Attack defended 15 0 0 13 815,048 details
7 days ago Thanatos_the_Reaper Attack defended 15 0 0 1 165,191 details
1 week ago thedevil69_4 Attack defended 10 0 0 76 67,646 details
1 week ago marc_4k Attack defended 5 0 0 1 76,629 details
1 week ago lilrappah Attack defended 5 0 0 25 76,658 details

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 20, 2004, 12:06:24 AM

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Higher rank means you have more money for SA, DA, and CA.... rank DOES make a difference.

your thinking of troops there

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Guest on February 20, 2004, 12:44:33 AM

i will not endorse this war as of yet,

but i am curious, will i get the same level of courtesy and respect if this wasnt a beta,? or if more TGA members were better prepared for such a conflict?

i truley hope so as i a am staying out of this , not because my army isnt prepared, or because im worried about rank, i am staying out of it cuss frankly i dont support the reasoning, my thought will change however if i feel that TGA means to retalite against orc army as a whole, or if i see any TGA in my logs.

.......... well i guess what i am asking for is a truce pact between myself orc army and TGA, do i have such a agreement?????

i will await an answere.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: smi256 on February 20, 2004, 01:24:35 AM

1) I don’t know what ‘smack’ Gixxer is talking about. I don’t know, maybe something I’m not seeing is going on. or I'm brain-dead (good possibility of that... ;) )
also, Gixxer, why haven't you made an account to post with?

2) Dude ET, you’re already getting shit attacks being made on you?!

damn those cheaters/dumb asses :angry:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 20, 2004, 03:06:47 AM

Um...is the guest Gixxer or someone else. Me personally, I would prefer to have peace, but if TGA does go to war again I'll stick w/ them.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 20, 2004, 04:57:05 AM

the guest is gixxer

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Gixxer on February 20, 2004, 05:01:55 AM

ooops sorry ya "guest" was me, i guess what i am asking for is someone with the power to say so , to say wether orc army and tga has a truce.

now this is not something that can be pulled away when the age gets boring or players get more stable, it is a binding "we shall not war with orc army" again kinda thing...of course barring some unforseen incident.

i really dont want a war either, i enjoy farming for money and turns are rare these days :)

p.s am i unbanned from #koctga? not really sure how i got banned in the first place.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 20, 2004, 05:05:36 AM

as EvilTracy as staited, this is not an orc army vs. TGA war, it's TGA vs. anyone who EvilTracy can find...3 people so far

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 20, 2004, 05:26:45 AM

hmm...I think someone quoted when you got banned. I don't remember if it's been lifted...I mean I don't see a reason for it. You know since the war is kind of over riiight? Please let him back in...don't make me get on my knees. O_o

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Firething on February 20, 2004, 05:28:18 AM

under you do that voluntarily anyways :rolleyes:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 20, 2004, 05:58:44 AM

Ok...don't make me get on my knees to trip and stab random people.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Firething on February 20, 2004, 10:20:16 AM

you are probably gonna do that anyways

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 20, 2004, 07:29:01 PM

Such a HUGE mass attack... check out all the participation from yesterdays attack! Prepare... cause today will be worse... I think there may be 2 more attacks :P

32 seconds ago TGA_LadyofLight 610 Gold stolen 1 3 0 45,985 1,834,272 details
1 minute ago TGA_LadyofLight 661 Gold stolen 1 3 0 40,379 1,680,210 details
1 minute ago TGA_LadyofLight 393 Gold stolen 1 2 0 40,470 1,815,263 details
2 minutes ago TGA_LadyofLight 565 Gold stolen 1 3 0 40,512 1,764,997 details
2 minutes ago TGA_LadyofLight 687 Gold stolen 1 3 0 46,165 1,798,354 details
5 minutes ago biteme360 2,935 Gold stolen 1 11 2 461,902 1,762,460 details
5 minutes ago biteme360 3,558 Gold stolen 1 10 2 434,556 1,782,662 details
6 minutes ago biteme360 3,104 Gold stolen 1 7 1 446,640 1,808,302 details
6 minutes ago biteme360 3,357 Gold stolen 1 8 1 467,781 1,825,591 details
7 minutes ago biteme360 2,687 Gold stolen 1 10 2 435,147 1,714,994 details
30 seconds ago biteme360 392 Gold stolen 1 16 10 447,797 3,972,743 details
47 seconds ago biteme360 271 Gold stolen 1 15 10 464,112 3,871,953 details
1 minute ago biteme360 473 Gold stolen 1 18 11 433,325 3,860,709 details
2 minutes ago biteme360 332 Gold stolen 1 20 12 454,360 3,851,034 details
3 minutes ago biteme360 419 Gold stolen 1 10 7 447,153 3,674,249 details
21 seconds ago TGA_LadyofLight 81 Gold stolen 1 2 0 29,172 133,007 details
53 seconds ago TGA_LadyofLight 70 Gold stolen 1 1 0 23,561 77,525 details
1 minute ago TGA_LadyofLight 82 Gold stolen 1 3 0 34,737 120,639 details
5 minutes ago TGA_LadyofLight 110,248 Gold stolen 15 4 1 34,930 90,704 details
5 minutes ago TGA_LadyofLight 7,952 Gold stolen 1 1 0 51,620 85,247 details
1 minute ago TGA_LadyofLight 1,095 Gold stolen 1 1 1 40,414 148,075 details
1 minute ago TGA_LadyofLight 1,005 Gold stolen 1 2 1 34,875 157,510 details
2 minutes ago TGA_LadyofLight 1,292 Gold stolen 1 3 1 34,805 170,385 details
2 minutes ago TGA_LadyofLight 1,148 Gold stolen 1 2 1 29,345 133,360 details
2 minutes ago TGA_LadyofLight 1,090 Gold stolen 1 4 2 34,947 169,805 details
14 seconds ago TGA-Matt_the_Shark 476 Gold stolen 1 1 1 18,883 147,555 details
25 seconds ago TGA-Matt_the_Shark 379 Gold stolen 1 0 1 19,182 123,550 details
35 seconds ago TGA-Matt_the_Shark 596 Gold stolen 1 1 1 18,511 169,155 details
46 seconds ago TGA-Matt_the_Shark 534 Gold stolen 1 0 0 15,856 167,852 details
1 minute ago TGA-Matt_the_Shark 566 Gold stolen 1 0 0 13,677 181,430 details

Biteme... I only counted 1 other person who attacked you? Me and one other? If there were more... then wahoo! It's getting CrAzY NoW! LOL

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: nonskilled on February 21, 2004, 03:21:15 AM

man why u frontin on matt the shark he got a messed up grill thatll rip u naw mean cous?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 21, 2004, 04:43:17 AM

What so those are attacks on you?

Psst...did anyone catch what Jeff was saying?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 21, 2004, 05:11:28 AM

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man why u frontin on matt the shark he got a messed up grill thatll rip u naw mean cous?

Someone got drunk again... ^_^ :hehe:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 21, 2004, 08:52:59 AM

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What so those are attacks on you?

yea, i was having trouble with that too, but actually it's his and his officers attacks on us

i find it funny that he seems to thing of that as winning?

some small attacks that managed to kill a few of my merc's

lets look at straight troops,
beginning of having attacks started on me: about 3K troops
Now: Total Fighting Force 4,139

officers i had before attacks: 30 about
officers i have now:38

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: nonskilled on February 22, 2004, 04:49:26 AM

see u guys misunderstood those were attacks they did on our guys. see i was telling him not to attack matt the shark cuz i love that guy and its rude to attack them. but it dont mean a thing cuz i forsee bite_me killing this guy massively

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Totally agree's with dude / on February 22, 2004, 04:55:04 AM

yea, i hate to admit it, but he's right, there will be some major ownage going on

:D

oh, and i'm up to 40 officers now

~Biteme360, from a USC computer, Go GameCock

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Gixxer on February 22, 2004, 10:47:40 PM

ummm hi gixxer here :)

i heard rumor that sithlord, i.e eviltracy is getting attacked today, i just want to make sure i do not get involved in this so be carefull attacking his officers :)

i imagine you guys know my nick this beta but not sure.

also, i am still banned from your guys irc room...

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 22, 2004, 11:08:49 PM

Smi tried to fix it...cuz he loves me ya know. It's still Gixxer neh?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 23, 2004, 12:50:26 AM

gixxer

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17:47:40

that would be 5:47:40PM, that was about 47:40 minuters after the attacks ended, dude, you gost ta get you some better spys

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Elvish_Dude on February 23, 2004, 01:41:04 AM

So its TGA, Striker Clan and another alliance participating in the mass. Who is the other alliance? Are you allied with Striker Clan?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: matt_the_shark on February 23, 2004, 02:05:24 AM

just because we choose to participate in a mass attack with them doesn't mean that we are allies with them

i think that answers your question

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 23, 2004, 03:32:54 AM

ok,

A. TGA did not ally with striker, i explained the sidjuation to them, and we came to the agreement that we had a mutual enemy.

B. TGA and striker were not the only alliances that participated in the attacks. Over all it was the combinde efforts of players in 4 different clans, and an unknown amount of random players, officers, and other alliances that the verdict is still out on if they helped or not

C. I take all credit, and blame for anything that comes from these mass attacks, i put them together, i set the time, and i made sure as many people partipated as possible. Don't be hating the player, hate the game. :cool:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: smi256 on February 23, 2004, 03:37:45 AM

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...
also, i am still banned from your guys irc room...

I was able to ban and unban other people, but it didn't work for yours...maybe I typed to wrong nick name...I don't know, I'm not an IRC user :miffed:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: LadyofLight on February 23, 2004, 04:17:58 AM

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Oh, and LadyofLight.... you were a big part of the last wars with Orc Army, so, we will be sure you don't get forgotten either

LOL I don't frequent the city and their attacks were so pitiful I didn't even know this was going on till now.

Shows how much we care. It's not even mentioned in the Fortress.

Gixxer, as of now I can't say we'll never attack again, cuz who knows. Leadership changes, stuff happens. But I can tell you we are in no way planning anything against Orc Army. We started a war cuz that age was boring and it's part of our mission statement that we're against orcs. It was funning warring you guys. Not impossible like against LS, but not so easy there's no fun. You were respectable. Don't doubt that. But the age is over, and it'll just hurt both our alliances to war at the start of the age. We'll keep each other down so to speak, and neither of us want that. So I say it's a mutual peace for everyone's interest. We are just participating against EvilTracy cuz he can't seem to let go. We know it's not from Orc Army as a whole and do not hold you responsible for his actions unless you join him.

Oh, and yes, I have the authority to say so. ;)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 23, 2004, 04:27:47 AM

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4 hours ago SithL0rd 5,614 Gold stolen 1 81 24 2,755,005 7,178,490 details
4 hours ago SithL0rd 10,515 Gold stolen 1 52 16 2,929,347 7,368,540 details
4 hours ago SithL0rd 9,959 Gold stolen 1 65 20 2,974,374 7,307,679 details
4 hours ago SithL0rd 6,257 Gold stolen 1 47 15 3,113,397 7,353,594 details
4 hours ago SithL0rd 9,369 Gold stolen 1 48 14 3,018,258 7,471,941 details

How quietly can you say "ouch"? I sure can't do it after THOSE losses :P Then again, I'm not in YOUR position, am I?

Biter, perhaps you should explain how SC was involved in this, no?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 23, 2004, 04:42:27 AM

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I don't frequent the city and their attacks were so pitiful I didn't even know this was going on till now.

...WHAT?

eviltracy troops before attacks :8633
Eviltracy troops after attacks: lowest i've seen them was at 6,648

PITIFUL? PITIFUL?[/font]

i consider that in no way pitiful

as for Striker, i got in touch with one of their higher members, talked to him, said i was putting a little something something together, and made sure they knew who eviltracy was, they was eager to help

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 23, 2004, 06:16:45 PM

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How quietly can you say "ouch"? I sure can't do it after THOSE losses :P Then again, I'm not in YOUR position, am I?

Biter, perhaps you should explain how SC was involved in this, no?

NS33=Infinite member
Me=NOO member

Infinite is allied with NOO..... hmmmm... doesn't seem right here NS33. Had I been attacking you for your affiliations, it would be different.... but just as I ensure AA members who are in TGA don't get hit, you should know that attacking members of allied clans/alliances is a no no.

LadyofLight.... you didn't notice anything because your account is not worth attacking. I put your name out there for newbie players.... who had an SA that was very weak.... most players in our alliance are 2-3 times larger than you and would be wasting their attacks.

Biteme.... that was an impressive attack you coordinated. Age3 beta casualties are pretty damn high! It sucked, but didn't trash me and I will still move on. I wish you luck that your officers start getting active.... i'm sure when that happens, you should then be able to out rank me.... as far as Striker Clan goes... not sure if they really mean it or not... they have given appologies and said they made a mistake... so, hopefully you won't get their help in the future... but we will see. All I can hope for now is that they bring sabotage back.... before you get immune... :(

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 23, 2004, 06:59:12 PM

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You just dont understand, do you Tracy? My relations with Infinite has no matter whatsoever with you being in NOO. Errtu and I talked about this yesterday, had planned to talk with Lightwarrior yesterday, and need be, I'll talk about it today.

YOU declared war on some friends of mine and got them involved. I happen to be a close associate to many of the people here. I may not be a member, but I hold my personal matters closer than my alliance relations. If you think that my ties restrict me from attacking you, you need to take another look at the game. I told Errtu this and I'll say it here and again: if my relations with Infinite impedes or hinders my ability to fight for the people I know, then I'll sever those relations as simple as that. You can mass attack me all you want, and you can be sure that I wont be bringing Infinite into this. I wont be dumping the can of worms that's just been opened, I'll do what I can to keep it upright and keep you from spilling it.

And do explain why Errtu came to me and claimed I had sided with Striker Clan in that attack? I find that a very amusing connection that you've made and would be more than glad to hear how you came to that conclusion.

Yeah, if you want a log of my "conversation" yesterday, get me a request and it'll be up here. I find it most amusing.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: LadyofLight on February 23, 2004, 07:20:15 PM

Biteme, I meant his attacks on me were so pitiful I didn't even notice this until you posted to attack evil. Then I came here and saw this.

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I put your name out there for newbie players.... who had an SA that was very weak.... most players in our alliance are 2-3 times larger than you and would be wasting their attacks.

Maybe that's because I'm busy tring to manage an alliance and can't spend every minute clicking.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 23, 2004, 07:28:19 PM

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Maybe that's because I'm busy tring to manage an alliance and can't spend every minute clicking.

yea, i'm starting to understand the feeling

ok, i justed wanted to be clear about the pitiful thing

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 23, 2004, 07:45:32 PM

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And do explain why Errtu came to me and claimed I had sided with Striker Clan in that attack? I find that a very amusing connection that you've made and would be more than glad to hear how you came to that conclusion.

I didn't tell Errtu you sided with Striker Clan. I had warnings from people including him that there was gonna be an attack on me... and that Striker Clan was also involved. When I saw your name in my logs, I brought it up to him.... and asked if we were supposed to be allied... he said yes... I told him it doesn't sound like much of an ally if he attacks his own allies... and Errtu agreed.... I never said anything about you siding with Striker Clan... he probably came to that conclusion on his own because when he warned me, he had also said Striker Clan was involved. Get your facts straight of who told who what before you try to accuse me. I didn't make any connections.... Errtu did that on his own.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 24, 2004, 12:12:22 AM

Biter, again today? Someone needs to be taught a through lesson <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 24, 2004, 12:41:55 AM

someone has been taught a lesson, their just a realy bad student

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Gixxer on February 24, 2004, 01:14:06 AM

i find this very entertaining :)

and PS i am still banned from #koctga???????

someone gonna fix this for me?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Perdition on February 24, 2004, 01:17:38 AM

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Biter, again today? Someone needs to be taught a through lesson <_<

:hehe: BONDAGE!

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 24, 2004, 01:50:13 AM

LOL :blink: :miffed: <_< LOL

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 24, 2004, 01:55:20 AM

OMG some of you just need to grow up...mainly Evil...

Why can't you let things go? We explained to you that the war was going to be over when the age ended...has it ended? OH yes I believe so. Now it's become this WHOLE THING. I'm tired <_< OF YOU...

Please somebody unban Gixxer...his presence in #koctga should not be a problem b/c THE WAR IS OVER

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 24, 2004, 02:04:56 AM

i realy don't see a reason gixxer should be allowed into koctga, the channel was supposed to be for members of TGA, or at least thats how i understood it when it was originally made

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 24, 2004, 02:07:39 AM

And quit sending your minions against me. They do little but clog up logs <_<

Your strike action is... laughable... :huh:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 24, 2004, 02:17:46 AM

truth, though it is fun to watch them scamper around trying to hurt me as i step on them :cool:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 24, 2004, 02:19:50 AM

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i realy don't see a reason gixxer should be allowed into koctga, the channel was supposed to be for members of TGA, or at least thats how i understood it when it was originally made

Ok then ... <_< BUT it's not like we usually talk about important things in there. And even if we do...that's not the main way stuff leaks out...

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Gixxer on February 24, 2004, 02:46:56 AM

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And quit sending your minions against me. They do little but clog up logs <_<

Your strike action is... laughable... :huh:

who you talkin too? i dont have menions and my strike action is far from little :)

and what ya mean your irc channel is private???

thats smart irc rooms are desighned to welcome people and intoduce them to your clan...

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: LadyofLight on February 24, 2004, 03:01:58 AM

I think letting Gixxer in would be beneficial more than harmful. We aren't at war with them any more, and it could help prevent hard feelings between the alliance which would further fuel evil's pitiful war. We never talk in there about anything important, cuz it's not secure, and I think after war is the time to be able to talk. Gixxer seems cool, at least compared to Evil, and if he acts up then we can just kick him again. What we gonna lose?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 24, 2004, 05:00:45 AM

Thank you for being reasonable Lady...*IF* only some one could actually unban him...

Smi tried before, but it's just not happening.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: LadyofLight on February 24, 2004, 05:01:58 AM

no idea how. Otherwise I would.

Last time I went in I wasn't even auto-opped. <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 24, 2004, 05:10:05 AM

hm...maybe the person that banned him has to unban him.

Who kicked him in the first place?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 24, 2004, 05:10:47 AM

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thats smart irc rooms are desighned to welcome people and intoduce them to your clan...

yes, there also good for duscussing stats, stratigies, and coordinating attacks

as for letting gixxer into the channel, i have no prob with it, koctga hasn't had talk about koc in it for a long time

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 24, 2004, 06:26:57 AM

Biter what happened to:

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i realy don't see a reason gixxer should be allowed into koctga

???

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 24, 2004, 07:38:12 AM

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~coments deleated due to their flaming nature

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 24, 2004, 07:41:08 AM

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Did you read the first post? Did I say this was cause of Age 2? My reason was because beta has not been the most exciting time for most.... isn't that the reason you guys called war on us? To bring some spice back to the game? What makes you think your so freaking special that it's cool for you to do, but if I do the same, it's cause I won't let it go? Granted, your alliances past actions had had an impact on my decision.... but I was gonna war with somebody... it was just a matter of choosing who.... just as you guys have your reasons for who you choose.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 24, 2004, 07:43:14 AM

This is just getting out of hand and you know it Evil. There is no reason to say those things. No I don't like it...I don't like the hostility that this has created. This war WAS meant to be fun and it's just changed. Yes I realized that those comments were not directed towards me, but still there is no reason for you to call people names.

OMG SHUT UP...

/me needs to go drown out thoughts. <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 24, 2004, 07:45:07 AM

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And quit sending your minions against me. They do little but clog up logs <_<

Your strike action is... laughable... :huh:

My strike is ranked 46.... is there anybody in TGA who can beat it? Laugh all you want... and laugh harder at your friends whos attack is worse.... and laugh even harder at your 350K return attack for an army of over 4,500

As far as me sending minions.... you got it wrong again... again you screw up your facts.... I posted names of attackers... if people choose to pick you out of the bunch, maybe it's cause of your large size and weak DA?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 24, 2004, 08:07:05 AM

ET, this is the only time i will say this, speaking the way you did on that post that i edited will not be tolerated by me, and i hope that none of the other council members will either, oh, and 46 isn't that great

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 24, 2004, 03:11:30 PM

Who cares about defense when you lose only 3.7m in the past two weeks? I hope you have a lot of buyers for you ;) Besides, I wouldve sold some weapons to train instead of lose all that TBG soldiers.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 24, 2004, 03:26:34 PM

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oh, and 46 isn't that great

maybe not.... but it's not laughable either now is it? If so, then laugh your ass's off... each one of you...

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: SS on February 24, 2004, 03:36:28 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Gixxer on February 24, 2004, 04:19:06 PM

i must have missed something as it looks like one of evils posts was edited.

i dont think 46 is bad at all, ..although mine is much higher :)

now on to the important stuff, as a spectator here i can see both sides of the problem,

A: evil is bored wich is understandable this beta sucks frankly, and since war is one way to spice things up, he has started this thing up again, i think some of it is to, prove a piont in how we felt when TGA attacked orc army wich is about the same we didnt feel like we did anything wrong and we didnt really want a war cuss alot of us were going for rank, so yes i would say ET is throwing some of that back at you through spite.

now, at the piont where you are attacked like biteme and who ever else ET is attacking, you have basically 2 choices , 1} lay down and take it, 2} fight back both physically and verbally

well we {including ET} know biteme and the others are not going to cower in the corner and take it , they are going to fight back., so this is how we all find ourselves where we are

now i do need to clarify 1 thing ET is my friend and i will do what ever he needs anytime he needs it, {i think we all have people in koc like that} if he came to me and asked me to help in this i probally would out of loyalty, he has not asked for my help he asked if i wanted to participate and i said no i dont. but he has not come out and asked me to help him,

now evil attacked biteme and others, wich was the first blood if you will, you guys retaliated very well dealing a severe blow to evil's army, i think this is the piont too try to end this, lets put away the macho bickering and try to come to a civilized arrangement, where if we can work this out, i have said it before and i'll say it again, war is fine but there are enough evil shitheaded alliances out there we dont need to destroy each other for no reason when we could actually work together to reach a more commen goal.

i will be speaking to bubba today after i get off work what i am looking for is a 24 hour cease fire and maybe then we can put a stop to this, and go fight some bad guys.

if my help is not wanted or needed i will bud out just say so.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: SS on February 24, 2004, 04:23:48 PM

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we dont need to destroy each other for no reason when we could actually work together to reach a more commen goal.

Oooh, that's an easy one. Y'all become Human, Elves or Dwarves for Age3 proper. :D

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 24, 2004, 04:43:46 PM

Civilized agreement? "we dont need to destroy each other for no reason" <--- There should be a "civilized agreement" on a war declared because Tracy was feeling bored and decided to war for fun?

"you guys retaliated very well dealing a severe blow to evil's army, i think this is the piont too try to end this" <--- Why are you doing this in the first place? By asking for a peace treaty, who are you doing this for, US, BOTH parties, or just for Tracy?

"go fight some bad guys"
Obviously, Tracy would rather carry on little side conflicts instead of devoting his time to taking down Striker, especially since SC took part in attacking him.

This whole asking for peace thing doesnt make sense to me... <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 24, 2004, 06:22:08 PM

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"Tracy was feeling bored and decided to war for fun?" <---- yes, you got it 100% right this time.... I was bored... and decided war would be fun... just as TGA did last age.

"Obviously, Tracy would rather carry on little side conflicts instead of devoting his time to taking down Striker" <----- to do anything at all to LordStriker it takes a large mass. I have already posted in Relentless forums when people asked me about the OSA.... I said if Relentless leaders decide to go after LordStriker, I will follow suit.... and recall the OSA and fight him. But the Relentless leaders have NOT declared anything official against LordStriker as of yet. There has been some members attacking him... but it's not at all coordinated.... just small groups of players.... so, in this case... yes, I side conflict with TGA is more fun. You guys fight back.... and if you did not, I would get bored with you. (look at the smaller TGA members and notice I don't mess with them really... they are no fun) Do you think if I attacked LordStriker he would fight back? Nah, he would wait for it to get bigger and go after orc00.... so, if I went to war with him, it would be a one way war.... which is no fun.

And I do believe some members here are taking this too seriously. Yes, while I may have started attacks and I post here and we flame back and forth and play these word games... it's exactly that... a game... and should only go that far.

I think an example of taking this game too seriously is when people try to use out of game tactics against other players. An out of game tactic would be something like this (this is a quote from LordStriker when I spoke with him in Age2)

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NaviUser says:
anyway.... like I was telling Kyrakyle... it's a game... we need a good guy and a bad guy... so, maybe if the reasons for being a bad guy aren't 'perfect'... they are good enough though... LOL... and without picking it apart too much... it WAS decieving
Gram [LordStriker] [Rekirts_Drool] says:
Exactly it is a game, and make attacks on me its cool. LIke what sh1fty started in the begining it was honorable. but it seems like the only way my opposition can get support is by brainwashing new players into thinking I'm a cheater and I should pay some how.
NaviUser says:
Well,... people also will believe what they WANT to believe... and I want to believe your the EvilEmpire... and i'm the Rebel Forces
NaviUser says:
so, many of these people already feel this way... they just need a little nudge
Gram [LordStriker] [Rekirts_Drool] says:
I am dead serious when I say this. Clan Recruiter is a business, owned by a California Corporation. The parents of these kids will be very surpized when I seek damages if they adverly effect my target market.
NaviUser says:
what?
Gram [LordStriker] [Rekirts_Drool] says:
This is a game, your useing "out of game" reasons for your resistance. You don't want to cross that line.
NaviUser says:
what are you talking about?... I said your clicker was decieving... and it was... what do you mean.. "out of game reasons"?
NaviUser says:
How are we adversly effecting your target market? By attacking you and/or your officers?
Gram [LordStriker] [Rekirts_Drool] says:
no. its not that.
Gram [LordStriker] [Rekirts_Drool] says:
Its all the crap on GUA everone calling me a cheater. If it was true, the admins would have deleted me. In fact all the "evidence" was givin to Aman and the others and they thought it was childish crap.
Gram [LordStriker] [Rekirts_Drool] says:
and had no foundation.

See, THIS is taking the game too far... tactics like this. I can't verify it 100%... but, I was told he also threatened a lawsuit against Morten and Kyrakyle... that was 2nd hand info though... so, I can't say it's 100% true... but the above conversation IS 100% true.

The reason I post this is for this.... I get the feeling that some members here try to use out of game tactics against me... or at least look for any reason they can find to do such. THAT is going too far.... not in game attacks or flames on message boards. Remember, this IS a game.... and as biteme has said in his posts.... "don't hate the player... hate the game"

Now, lets get back to this war... keep it IN GAME.... and not take things too personally.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: LadyofLight on February 24, 2004, 07:42:52 PM

Then stay out of our boards unless you're actually trying diplomacy. i can see you needing to talk to us if you want to discuss terms, otherwise, stay away, you have nothing to say to us.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 24, 2004, 09:06:01 PM

It matters not if TGA declared war for "fun" last age, in your terms. As anti-orc being their policy, it wasnt "fun" that started the war; it was "policy." You however wage a different war for no reason. In my eyes, it doesnt look too good for YOU to wage a war for "no reason" when TGA declared war according to their policy. TGA tried to close the war from last age a few days ago, and I'll point to ElvishDude to note that he's the one that kept pressing for a continuation of war. Seeing TGA wasnt playing your game, you wanted something to do...

*shrug* The snowball stopped rolling when last age ended. Probably wouldve stayed there if you didnt want to start rolling it again. It's gonna take one helluva effort to stop this soon-to-be avalanch... <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: evilknight on February 24, 2004, 10:54:52 PM

with this momentary lull in these talks, may i please take the time to make a request? can we call evil_tracy something like evil_t instead of just evil? cause most people here have just been calling me evil for a while now, and im afraid people might get the wrong idea

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Perdition on February 24, 2004, 11:03:48 PM

I always used ET. but then you can get it confused with that demon alien thing. :unsure:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 25, 2004, 12:15:19 AM

how quickly a thread gets spammed, it's amazing

and ET was freaky

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 25, 2004, 02:35:31 AM

Call him Tracy then.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: matt_the_shark on February 25, 2004, 02:46:49 AM

ET PHONE HOME!!! :P

so...i think i'll call him ET LOL

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Perdition on February 25, 2004, 02:53:42 AM

DONT SAY THAT!

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: LadyofLight on February 25, 2004, 03:00:23 AM

Stop spamming. This was a serious thread.

Or do we need spam stickers again?

Edit: Gixxer should be unbanned now.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 26, 2004, 04:28:13 AM

This was 5 hours ago after KoC came back up after an hour or so of downtime. Unfortunately, the nab was only some 55%, unless he spent some first <_<

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Your generals report on your army's status:
4,810 of your soldiers are trained attack specialists
177 of your army consists of untrained soldiers
393 of your trained soldiers receive weapons and 4,417 are weaponless
None of your 177 untrained soldiers have weapons
Your field scouts report on the status of the enemy:
The enemy has 100 trained soldiers with weapons and 37 with no weapons
None of the enemy's 29 untrained soldiers have weapons

Your troops inflict 10,640,451 damage on the enemy!
The enemy sustains 0 casualties!
SithL0rd's forces counter-attack and inflict 2,217,760 damage on your army!
Your army sustains 5 casualties!

As SithL0rd's army runs from the battlefield you examine the collected spoils:
You stole 736,074 gold from SithL0rd!

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 26, 2004, 05:06:49 AM

nice ns, very nice

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Lord Lanair on February 26, 2004, 05:18:59 AM

:drool:

Wish I could get some farms that yielded that much. LOL

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 26, 2004, 06:16:12 AM

i just want some officers, i'll attack next age, this age i build

*gets out his legos and starts to make a shadow-robot to stalk ET

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 26, 2004, 06:29:45 AM

Um...Biter do you mean the Beta?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 26, 2004, 03:54:23 PM

Read it and weep

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(09:18:08) <@Lightwarrior> hey NS why are you attacking NOO members
(09:22:11) <@Lightwarrior> NS you there we need to talk
(09:28:26) <@o_o-o_O-O_o-O_O> attacking who?
(09:29:54) <@o_o-o_O-O_o-O_O> who's in noo
(09:31:56) <@Lightwarrior> Errtu
(09:32:12) <@Errtu> ya?
(09:32:33) <@Lightwarrior> tell o_o-o_O-O_o-O_O or NS who
(09:32:48) <@o_o-o_O-O_o-O_O> who was attacked?
(09:32:51) <@Errtu> Sithlord
(09:32:52) <@Errtu> still
(09:33:33) * o_o-o_O-O_o-O_O is now known as NS33
(09:33:43) <@NS33> im going to lay down the matter here and now from my perspective
(09:33:54) <@Lightwarrior> good
(09:34:18) <@NS33> you know that tracy declared bubba wars against tga, which includes attacks from himself on tga members
(09:34:39) <@NS33> ive got a lot of friends in tga that i still back, in this war against them i participate in because they were attacked
(09:35:06) <@NS33> tracy conducted this war, and while i'm still a third party, my dedication goes first to my closest friends
(09:35:40) <@NS33> if, by my attacking tracy who is an ally, ive violated something that severe in infinite, then simple, i'll leave and cause no more problems
(09:35:51) <@Lightwarrior> they sided with striker clan i watched them mass him the other day
(09:35:59) <@NS33> if tracy wants war, im going to wage it on MY terms, not on HIS saying i cant attack because of some alliance
(09:36:08) <@Errtu> and they declared war on orc army first
(09:36:10) <@Errtu> last age
(09:36:19) <@Errtu> this is just a reaction on this
(09:36:27) <@Errtu> it's their own fault tracy did this
(09:36:34) <@NS33> they declared war on orc army last age because they are anti-orc, you know that, i konw that, everyone knows that
(09:36:44) <@NS33> have you read the thread at tga at all/
(09:37:10) <@Errtu> course i did. most of them were just bout beta bitching though
(09:37:12) <@NS33> It matters not if TGA declared war for "fun" last age, in your terms. As anti-orc being their policy, it wasnt "fun" that started the war; it was "policy." You however wage a different war for no reason. In my eyes, it doesnt look too good for YOU to wage a war for "no reason" when TGA declared war according to their policy. TGA tried to close the war from last age a few days ago, and I'll point to ElvishDude to note that he's the one that kept pressing for a continuation of war. Seeing TGA wasnt playing your game, you wanted something to do...
(09:37:30) <@Lightwarrior> they joined striker clan of thier own accord the otherday i was on thier when they organised the mass on sithlord
(09:37:47) <@NS33> tracy is waging bubba wars for the hell of it... tga had its valid reason for going to war against orc army
(09:38:04) <@NS33> i dont know about striker clan, because im not a pledged participant
(09:38:28) <@Errtu> hell
(09:38:58) <@Errtu> if u call an anti-orc character a valid reason then revenge is as well
(09:39:25) <@NS33> so be it revenge... that's just how *I* see things
(09:40:10) <@Lightwarrior> niether was I but i wont have Infinite going to war with Noo
(09:41:16) <@Lightwarrior> The TGA wants to join with strikerclan fine thats thier problem
(09:41:34) <@NS33> my attacks on tracy is my attacks and mine alone. just because im in an alliance doesnt mean that i give up every single bit of my personal freedom in the game.
(09:42:29) <@Errtu> brb
(09:43:06) <@NS33> no i will not stop attacking tracy because my connections with infinite. no matter how high rank might be in this alliance, it comes second only to the people i defend as friends
(09:43:19) <@Errtu> back
sithl0rd No such nick
sithl0rd End of /WHOIS list.
(09:43:37) <@Lightwarrior> it does when you attack allies it reflects on the whole alliance NS
(09:43:57) <@NS33> then if it makes it easier for TRACY, for YOU, for the ALLIANCE, i'll leave here and now
(09:43:57) <@Errtu> u got ur soldiers from infinite, u got officers from infinite, so u shouldn't use the army infinite gave u to hurt them
(09:45:16) <@Lightwarrior> thats your decision NS33 and i will accept it
(09:45:19) <@NS33> the two of you have been alliance leaders for a long time, i have not. you're priorities as alliance leaders will be different than mine. you put the alliance first and your personal matters second. i dont
(09:46:45) <@Lightwarrior> My word when i join as allies with another alliance is sacred to me it forms the basis for trust and being able to work together for all
(09:49:30) <@NS33> then you've got the wrong person in an alliance for the wrong reasons. part of my dedication may be to the alliance, but i will not precede my own devotions. the only way i will stop attacking tracy is if he calls off this war that he started. i will not stop until that, be it attacks on me, whether or not im in any alliance, or my being kicked from infinite
(09:50:13) <@NS33> if tracy wants to use the excuse of my being in infinite as a way to cease these attacks, then he and you are mistaken
(09:51:03) <@Lightwarrior> so be it then NS33 go back and join TGA because i wont accept that for Infinite
(09:51:41) <@NS33> so be it then
(09:51:51) * Lightwarrior sets mode: -o NS33
(09:51:52) -L- Sorry, you need the +o flag on #kocinfinite to get ops.
(09:54:09) <+NS33> too bad it had to end this way. most unfortunate tracy put it to this reason, and you bought it.

Errtu is Errtu@Errtu.users.quakenet.org * F*ck Ya
Errtu on @#kocuhc +#RebelsInParadise @#kocinfinite @#neworcorder
Errtu using *.quakenet.org QuakeNet IRC Server
Errtu is authed as Errtu
errtu End of /WHOIS list.

Lightwarrior is Aust@dialup-232.195.220.203.acc01-peel-mac.comindico.com.au * Rob Jones
Lightwarrior on @#neworcorder @#kocinfinite +#KOCTGA @#kocuhc
Lightwarrior using *.quakenet.org QuakeNet IRC Server
Lightwarrior is authed as Lightwarrior
lightwarrior End of /WHOIS list.

NS33 is ~there@WDT-NS33.users.quakenet.org * NS33
NS33 on +#secluded.isle @#paradise.island +#kocinfinite +#KOCTGA
NS33 using demon1.uk.quakenet.org Demon QuakeNet IRC Server
NS33 is authed as WDT-NS33
NS33 has been idle 10secs, signed on Thu Feb 26 09:16:57
ns33 End of /WHOIS list.

Hopefully there'll be less complaints from Tracy from now on ;)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 26, 2004, 07:43:23 PM

it's good to have you back man :cool:

and has no one explained to lightwarrior that i requested help from striker to take down a common enemy and that is why they helped? it does not mean we have allied with them or anything else, though i am grateful to them for their help and i will probably stay out of attacks on them unless i feel they are truely warented, and after i've seen the way ET can spin something to try and get people to attack for him, i believe there's much more to that thread he made around the end of age 2 than we know

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: evilknight on February 26, 2004, 08:18:06 PM

well biter, u know, im sure that's nothing a few mass attacks couldnt fix ;)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 26, 2004, 08:59:38 PM

*shrug* Like I said my priorities are different against theirs. And I cant bear the thought of not having a part in this. Tracy can go to whatever means and ends he wants to get me to stop attacking; I simply cut down on one of his excuses ;) (Did he say he was a grown individual?? :o :o )

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: evilknight on February 26, 2004, 09:13:45 PM

yes, i think that means he's adult.....ish. but you have to realize ns, anybody capable of the subtle manipulations of alliances and so forth must be fairly smart.....on some level.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 26, 2004, 10:10:13 PM

I wouldnt credit him being that smart. Just witty enough to persuade people to a certain extent. Gotta give some credit to the people that are actually listening to this shit tho :sheep:

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Goryous on February 26, 2004, 10:16:23 PM

Hmm, maybe manipulative...not exactly the same as smarts. I can think of two year olds that get their way alot just by being brats~throwing fits <_< So, maybe that person has atleast a two year old skill woohoo LOL

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Perdition on February 26, 2004, 10:56:18 PM

this frog totally owns your frog

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 26, 2004, 11:47:08 PM

It's amazing how just telling the truth can persued people. I never denied starting the war. When people asked 'why' I was attacked, I told them because I started a war with TGA. I did not need to manipulate anybody or 'spin' my story any way. As for people saying TGA teamed up with LordStriker, when I came home from the petstore, I had several IM's on my computer... from people warning me, and also saying that Striker Clan would be participating. People came to that on their own.... and just because of the general dislike for LordStriker and his clan by many people... many people emphasized it.

Many people felt that biteme getting StrikerClan involved was wrong. Last age when biteme and I spoke about 'why' I was attacking LordStriker, he said my reasons were bad... and that he would attack, just because LordStriker was number 1.... but the other stuff was a bunch of BS.... OK, fine, I was OK with that... and told him each person has their own reasons. And now, he has posted that he would not attack LordStriker and people only do it cause they are jealouse of his position... and that he respects that and wouldn't participate. Biteme was also not happy when I declared war on him.... He even said he was trying to get ready to rival LS. It's very clear to me that biteme has used whatever tactics were needed to help him. Which is to be expected right? This game is about beating other people down.

NS33, as far as what you did, there was no manipulation needed for people to see it was just wrong. I'm sure nobody here needs to have somebody tell them that it's a no no to attack members of allied clans. Because people are often in more than 1 alliance, it creates a web of allies and enemies... people who you should not attack because they are allied with you in some round-about way. At times, friendly fire happens... that's to be expected. And a warning/notification should prevent it. I have said this time and again, I am a member of AA... and some TGA members are also... I don't attack them and I don't plan attacks against them... because we are allied. I am in Relentless, so I don't attack members with DM preceeding their name, cause they are in Disturbed Mortality.... an allied clan. What NS33 did was not in any way a mistake and it was not a 1 time thing... I don't see why you say I had to persuad anybody to think I was in the right and what you did was wrong.... it's blatently obvious. You made your choice and your choice was that it's more important to you to attack me then be a member of Infinite... and that's fine. But you don't need to accuse me of 'persuading' people when what you did was blatently defiant against what it means to be allied.

At this point, it's a bit of a stalemate. I have about all my men trained to attack, you have your men trained to attack, biteme has his men trained to attack.... with the exception of possibly getting lucky and catching a person with money after the servers are down or after an attack, there's pretty much no more reason for me to continue attacking biteme or you. (Unless i'm bored and I wanna watch some mercs die). The rest of TGA are not active enough players with large enough armies to make waging a war against even worthwhile. (I haven't looked lately, but I think diskreet is still large? bah, who cares...) So, I am now calling it quits on the war.... not because either of us has truely given up.... but because there is about nothing either of us can do to each other now.

As for my age, don't make things personal OK?

Oh, and BTW.... my reptiles eat frogs :P
(http://www.wildernesspics.com/11308snake_frog.jpg)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: evilknight on February 26, 2004, 11:49:26 PM

awsome lizard thing dude.
errrr, that speach is too long, anyone wanna paraphrase it? :(

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: smi256 on February 26, 2004, 11:52:37 PM

I thought you were going to remove yourself ET?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 27, 2004, 12:15:16 AM

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errrr, that speach is too long, anyone wanna paraphrase it?

ET is a little pain, and now that he can't do crap to anyone he wants peace

ET, not saying parts of the truth is just as much spinning it as if you just flat out lied, most of the people attacking me had no idea this war was started by you, i recieved msgs telling me to stop attacking you, and most of them believed that i had mass attacked you with striker clan with no reason at all, none of those who msged me had any idea that you had started this war

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more important to you to attack me then be a member of Infinite...

Ns explained his reasons already, and you are changing it, giving half truths that suit your purposes,

yes, i want to rival LS, who here that plays seriously doesn't? last age i didn't care either way, i said that so you would stop being annoying, msging me on aim, and using circular logic to try and make your case.

as for your cute little "oh, time for the war to stop cause i can't do crap to anyone worth doing crap too" yea, i'm continue to do what i've been doing this whole time

oh and one last thing, had a look at my troop amounts lately ET? :cool:, soon you'll be nothing more than an old sore, healed over and forgotten

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: evilknight on February 27, 2004, 12:22:59 AM

and that my friends, is what i like to call pwnage

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Goryous on February 27, 2004, 12:45:09 AM

EvilTracy, no hard feelings or anything. I wasnt exactly saying you were acting like a two year old. More along the lines that many times even two year olds that can barely talk can influence many many people. Anyways, I dont know where you are at~country but hopefully just dont feed your lizard cane toads/toads as they tend to die. King snakes can handle cane toads though cant they? Have you fed your lizards mice yet?

Firefairy_8 , nice picture of a Goliath frog from africa...that is a really big frog.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Perdition on February 27, 2004, 12:52:11 AM

yeah. I got it from a national geog mag ages ago. when I was convinced i was a frog or I wanted to be a frog( I dont really remember)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Guest on February 27, 2004, 01:16:33 AM

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Quote from Orc Army site

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Voluntary War Against TGA (Bubba Wars)
« Thread started on: Feb 17th, 2004, 3:06pm »

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OK, here's the deal.... many people are getting bored (not everyone though)... for those of you who are bloodthirsty, let's have a war with TGA... or at least a few of their members and make their life hell.

If Orc Army members didn't know.... that's their own fault for not reading boards

A member posted this... after I posted my attack logs

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Re: biteme360 planned a mass on me
« Reply #5 on: Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:12am »

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Bubba Why are they doing this to you??

One of my officers responded...

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Last age TGA decalred war on us, becuz we were orcs, the beta was kinda boring so bubba started a little war for people who wanted, bubba, me redovan and a few others did a few 5x1 to him and he did to us, but then he asked LS for help, while he was against LS in age2 and thats what making me mad, so he planned an attack on bubba and Striker Clan was also involved, but we are gonna make him sorry he that he even thought about attacking bubba. I am waiting for my 24 hours to pass by so i can atack the prick.

I followed up with my own response...

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Re: biteme360 planned a mass on me
« Reply #9 on: Feb 23rd, 2004, 08:47am »

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Yes, as D3thp0w3r said, I declared war on TGA for people who were bored in beta.... I think we had about 4-6 people actually participating... nothing large..... I guess this was biteme360's way of saying I went to far? Funny though... TGA was against LordStriker in Age 2.... and biteme was never fond of him.... in fact, he was not happy when I declared war on TGA cause he said he was getting ready to rival LordStriker.... and what did he do? He asked them for help.... he is playing both sides. Striker Clan did not help him to help him.... they helped him because they saw an oppurtinity to attack the person who was their enemy in Age 2.

So, I can't say I was completely innocent in this.... what started as a small squirmish, biteme brought to a completely different level and got several alliances involved in.

I had also posted this in Relentless

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First, let me start by saying, i'm not asking for help with any problem players... but, this IS the battlefield, and this post IS about WAR.

OK, so, Age 3 beta is kinda lame... no sabotage, pillage formula is very erradic, you get less money per turn... most people will NEVER be able to afford the top upgrades... people are leaving alliances and KoC all together.... so, what do we do now?

How about WAR? Like I said, i'm not asking for help.... just putting this out there for anybody who is racking up turns and saying to themselfs 'this is boring... where is the action?'.... if you fit that category... PM me.... I can give you the details. This is not a Relentless war or anything... this is a war for anybody who is bored and needs a target just for the sake of killin!

... and after the mass... I posted this

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Well, I have been mass attacked. I have hit biteme360 for a few days now, he has hit me back.... going back and forth.... and he then called the Carnage Alliance, Striker Clan, and two others on me.... here is his link... all the 5x1 love possible would be great...

I don't think anybody can say I didn't say why I was massed.... and not be lying. If people attacked you and did not know that I started the war with you, then they were told by somebody else to attack you... or they did not read my post.... they skipped to the end of the thread, saw attacks on you, and joined in without knowing the story. If I remember right... Evan said she was mislead and was under the beliefe that the OSA was still active..... it went dead the end of age 2.... she had quoted a post from me, which was in referrence to Age 2 when Relentless broke ties with Striker Clan.... if you ask me, they were mislead.

I did not say I wanted peace... I said I was calling it quits because yes, as you said "I can't do crap"... but neither can you.... is there any reason for me to continue?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 27, 2004, 01:32:07 AM

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Anyways, I dont know where you are at~country but hopefully just dont feed your lizard cane toads/toads as they tend to die. King snakes can handle cane toads though cant they? Have you fed your lizards mice yet?

Firefairy_8 , nice picture of a Goliath frog from africa...that is a really big frog.

That's a pinesnake..... not a lizard... but anyway, my lizard doesn't get mice... it's a bearded dragon... he gets silkworms, crickets, and veggies. I have 2 Kenyan sand boas.... they get mice.

and smi.... I couldn't figure out how to delete myself..... so instead, I just stayed away for a couple days. Anything I say creates a big arguement with somebody ;) ... heck, I even offered a batch file to help click officers.... and the answer it got me was a 'Fuck You'

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: ns33 on February 27, 2004, 02:07:00 AM

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NS33, as far as what you did, there was no manipulation needed for people to see it was just wrong. I'm sure nobody here needs to have somebody tell them that it's a no no to attack members of allied clans. Because people are often in more than 1 alliance, it creates a web of allies and enemies... people who you should not attack because they are allied with you in some round-about way. At times, friendly fire happens... that's to be expected. And a warning/notification should prevent it. I have said this time and again, I am a member of AA... and some TGA members are also... I don't attack them and I don't plan attacks against them... because we are allied. I am in Relentless, so I don't attack members with DM preceeding their name, cause they are in Disturbed Mortality.... an allied clan. What NS33 did was not in any way a mistake and it was not a 1 time thing... I don't see why you say I had to persuad anybody to think I was in the right and what you did was wrong.... it's blatently obvious. You made your choice and your choice was that it's more important to you to attack me then be a member of Infinite... and that's fine. But you don't need to accuse me of 'persuading' people when what you did was blatently defiant against what it means to be allied.

It makes no matter whether I did it or not, because I will not stop attacking you, not this age, not next age, regardless of whether or not there will be war waged next age. Why? Do I need a reason? Just like, do you need a reason for declaring war this age? If you think that by attacking you I've wronged you or Lightwarrior or Errtu personally, then maybe it's time I looked at what type of people I've joined up under. You seem unable to grasp my concept of friends first, alliance second. You refuse the idea, and declare it wrong. You believe that an alliance should come first because it impacts the most people, it's better for everyone else. Well let me tell you something: its an awfully selfish world out there, and this is just one of the best cases. Now you ask yourself, was it selfish on MY part, or was it selfish on YOURS?

I'm not here for a morality debate with you. What has happened has happened, and it will remain that way. My stance with you has been the same, and will be the same regardless of whether or not I am in an alliance, any alliance. In fact, if I join any alliances at all, I will TELL them that I will attack you whenever I feel like it. And if they dont like it, then I have no business there, because, I'm sorry, I cant be as devoted to an alliance and follow these rules and put my personal matters second and watch as my friends get in trouble and do nothing about it. <_<

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: LadyofLight on February 27, 2004, 02:56:11 AM

Ahem, this is getting out of hand. ET has offered peace, and what are we doing? Frankly, we're being asses and stirring up more trouble. Though we may not agree with his terms of starting the war, he didn't our either, and we need to respect that. And it's just beta. Everyone's having a cow, but as soon as age 3 really starts it won't matter anyway. So stop freaking out! He offered peace! So lets accept and keep some dignity. Some of us are degrading to that two-year old level. Stop. Have some respect. I don't care what he might have said to you. You're responsible for your own actions. Digging after peace has been offered carries no honor, and that is not the image we want for TGA.

NS, I'm grateful you still hold your bonds to some of out members so high, though I'm sorry you had to lose infinite for it, and I'm sorry they couldn't understand friends you had bonded with are more important than some random people all in a group together. What you did was admirable, standing for what you believe. I don't know if you want to rejoin TGA or not, but you're most welcome.

Oh, and for anyone who was wondering, we as an alliance did not ally with Lordstriker. Biteme organized the mass attack with each. The leaders of each alliance did not make any sort of promises or statements, let alone ally ourselves. We didn't even know the attack was happening until right before. Biteme just offered striker a chance to join in on someone they also had a problem with, so as to be more effective overall. It's called strategy. This is, after all, a strategy game.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: matt_the_shark on February 27, 2004, 03:19:08 AM

well said, ladyoflight, let's just get this over with. i think that we've had enough flaming and arguements with each other to last ten ages.

Why can't we all just get along?

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: underruler on February 27, 2004, 03:32:32 AM

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Why can't we all just get along?

That's a great idea :)

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: Biteme360 on February 27, 2004, 03:37:52 AM

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I have hit biteme360 for a few days now, he has hit me back.... going back and forth....

you failed to plainly state that you started the attacks

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.... what started as a small squirmish, biteme brought to a completely different level

there are no lvl's in war, there is no small or large, you can compair what you did to me, and what i did to you and call it a punishment, overreachion mabye, i prefer to thing of it as defending myself, i found the one exploitable weakness you have/had and i made full use of it

and tell me what about the entire thread? where is that, because i'm sick of you telling me part of the truth ET, i want to see everything that was said, then i'll make up my own mind

and some quotes of my own, from people who attacked me

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I was never informed as to whether or not you sued for peace, and he's usually pretty reasonable about those things unless you managed to really piss him off.
I can only work with the information I'm given. I have to formulate my ideas and strategies based on that.

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I'll stop attacking you

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either you give your treuce and ceased fire to the one you attacked in my uber command, either i shall attack you till the end of this age.

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Please dont take it personally... I was just helping a friend.

I shall not attack you anymore.

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Btw, sorry for the 5x1 but i had to do it

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: evilknight on February 27, 2004, 04:39:43 AM

well, if this isnt a nice way to finish off a thread, i dont know what is.
thank you all for coming to this skirmish, and i hope you'll all come by for the next one.
now then, let's all hear a few finishing statements, and then we can all get on with our lives.

Title: The Bubba Wars have been declared
Post by: EvilTracy on February 27, 2004, 07:07:42 AM

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let's all hear a few finishing statements, and then we can all get on with our lives.

Stalemate :P (http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/the/hitler.gif)

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