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OK, I have been watching d1skreets account for a while, and I notice some suspicious activity.

1) His army is large, yet I never see him with money
                 I work in front of a computer all day.... no money during the day
                 I have stayed up until 2AM speaking with fire.... no money
                 I usually get up 2 times at night to spend..... no money
                 
2) This morning, he money got spent it... so, the next turn, I attacked him and got it. Next turn, I did nothing, and it got spent... the next turn, I attacked again, and got it... I then sent him a message, saying if he was there at his machine, could he please respond.... no response... next turn, his money got spent.

So, it appears that his money gets spent every turn, yet he is not around to return a message back to me?

OK, that's not hard evidence... but I figured with the accusations of Orc Army members cheating, I would just like to point out this strong possibility.

To prove me wrong, the test would be very simple....he could respond to my message. I'm sure with his DA there are not a lot of people just waiting for each turn to go by to farm him. Anyone who can break his defense would wait for targets that over well over 1 million.

As far as our 'fake' attacks, I will leave it up to him to check our clicklist with those names of members with the lousy SA who attacked him... the ones he provided the other day are all valid members, and a small bit of research (like looking at the members on our clickmaster) will show that.  

point taken.  next time give me at least 30 seconds to spend my gold... the two times you hit me, you hit me right when the tbg showed up.  

one thing i will make note of: everyone on the first page must have a spender... because they never have gold on them either.  hmm, i wonder if it's possible they get attacked.

and now.. i'm off to spend my tbg.  :P


well would you look at that... i didn't quite make it in time.

I'm sure people in the top 100 do get attacked quite a bit... however, they do manage to let their gold sit for more than 1 turn.

BTW... you never responded to my message in game? I know you were there... your gold was getting spent


Duke_Bedford 5 30,320 Humans  2,183,140 Gold
DJ_RADU 10 19,275 Elves  910,122 Gold
DARK_ATELIOTOS2 11 17,245 Orcs  760,044 Gold
bombermanneke 16 18,061 Dwarves  816,241 Gold
dwarfke 17 13,955 Dwarves  1,071,147 Gold
JFKConspiracy 20 21,132 Orcs  1,109,852 Gold
Igorlbg 22 16,522 Humans  871,053 Gold
KillyDSL 23 20,506 Orcs  884,759 Gold
Ballzie 30 8,008 Dwarves  570,349 Gold
Nanoc 31 17,466 Dwarves  696,625 Gold
Ratoshigan 32 9,423 Orcs  858,285 Gold
Shadow_J 60 8,454 Dwarves  1,034,106 Gold
Kitel 66 5,517 Elves  1,592,493 Gold
Yorec 70 5,064 Humans  969,265 Gold
Danuthor 75 5,615 Dwarves  813,175 Gold
Spaceboy2x 85 8,099 Elves  670,204 Gold
hugomontoya 92 5,971 Dwarves  1,071,151 Gold

.... not sure why these guys can keep it a little longer but you get it taken each turn? I highly doubt it's just cause you have a bunch of revengful people waiting for you each turn.

i never said my gold was stolen every turn.  most of the time it isn't.  and you know what?  i don't owe you an explanation for anything.  nor do i owe you a response to your in-game message.

cheers.

Yous are the cheaters. Example: SithLord, MysticSith and other sith peeps. TGA does not cheat, its yous!

Your right.... you don't owe me anything. I just thought you may like to prove me wrong... it would be sooo easy... and you could throw it back up at me and show me how stupid I am. I just thought you would jump at the opportunity.

But hey, I understand...  ;)  

do you have a life? I mean i can understand fire like this, but an adult?

hey dont talk about my age. i dont want him to stop throwing porn links at me.

Oh yeah, adults don't stay up late.... sorry I forgot.

2 AM seems quite excessive unless you have a job where you go at noon or the afternoon

and getting up twice to spend TBG? it seems like you are a little obssesed with this game. I like KoC too, but i can't think of many people who would get up twice during the night or early morning to spend this. If i was up at that time i would concentrate on falling asleep, not KoC.

Well, i'm not alone... apparently d1skreet does the same thing.

1) if you get up during the night to spend, you have no life and are hopelessly addicted
2) get a real job
3) what strong evidence?

On extension of 3, the only evidence that exists is your own observation on a single day. It is not an observation carried out over several weeks, not even several days. Your observations on one single day alone means aboslutely nothing. And the accusations that Orc Army is cheating is irrelevant, because your claim has nothing to DO with Orc Army. You use it, instead, as an implication, as a way to promote your personal theory that diskreet uses a buyer. The fact that you sent him messages is yet also an irrelevant and easily disproven piece of "evidence." Many times I have recieved new messages, yet when I log on to my base, the message is not highlighted. Only when I navigate away from my base do the new message notices come up. While it is unlikely that this would happen on repeated counts of the armory window being refreshed, the fact that this bug occurs is alone enough to discredit that claim. As a side note, your messages mean nothing. My messages mean nothing. A player may choose to or choose not to answer his/her inbox messages. Hell I ignore most of mine. And has it occured to you that one might not be in the best mood to check one's inbox messages at 2AM?  :hmmm:

Next time you bring evidence, think of the counterarguments yourself and maybe you'll save us all some time.

1) if you get up during the night to spend, you have no life and are hopelessly addicted
    Like I said... guess i'm not alone

2) get a real job
    Where does that come from? Cause my job is in front of a computer is not good enough?

3) what strong evidence?
    Please reread my post. This is not one days observations. As I said, I have been online as late as 2AM speaking with fire... and he had no money. This has always been the case. Since this war has started, I have been watching him... he is one of the few members you have that is worthwhile for me to farm, so don't think I haven't been checking him very often. And he never has had over 500K gold.

    I have also noticed after a turn, his gold dropped... but not below 167,800... it was like he decided to spend 'some' of it... but not all... why would he not spend all? Then, 10 minutes later when I check, his gold has been spent below the 167,800 mark.... next turn, same pattern.

    So, like I said... I don't have hard evidence... but the observations sure to point to him using an autobuyer. But you can refuse to believe it.... like I said, he could prove me wrong easily, but I guess just giving me theories of what may be happening is more compelling?

I have singled him out, because he specifically said most of the attacks on him were from fake accounts. When he posted the names, I could see right away, they were not fake accounts. If somebody is gonna complain about people cheating to attack them, and they appear to be cheating themselves, I will call them on it. The only thing he can say back is "I don't have to prove anything to you"... I would use that same exact line if I couldn't simply respond to a message at 2AM when i'm spending my gold using a script.

excuse me, but i only posted those in addition to those already posted by opper.  not to mention the (not active) accounts that attacked me.  but all's good.  i see you found some more live bodies to attack me.  may i trouble you to ask exactly which alliances are helping you out?

I don't know? I'm the council member who doesn't deal with allies. I didn't want any allies. I wanted to be completely neutral, not help others and not ask for help from others... but the other council members felt differently, so I let them deal with keeping track of alliances.

I just put the word out to some players I speak with on AIM.

while we on the subject of tbg, thanks for the gold evil  LOL  :D  :hehe:  :P  

No problem... I unblocked you on AIM too... so you can continue to heckle me  <_<  

good now he wont ask me to heckle you for him.  

i feel like i have to get this straight, i'm a bit ashamed tho...

i took diskreets money while he was sleeping... i had to go and buy some cheese, cause the fridge was empty, sorry disk :paranoid:  :(  

Hey, waking up twice during the night to spend money is fine :P
one feature of my college life is that i tend to have restless nights... rare for me to sleep a full 5-6hrs straight without waking up several times inbetween...

and then i sleep the rest during bus commuting, during classes, free periods... you know :D

Damn, and I thought I was obsessed with this game before I stopped playing.  Never did I even consider waking up in the middle of the night to check my gold.  Nothing gets in the way of my sleep.  Life is much nicer now without checking a damn account every couple of hours.

here is my theory on why d1skreet did not respond evil. He is a leader of an alliance which was around for all the ages, he is rank 13, and his alliance is anti orc. With all of this in mind I think that a lot of people send him nonsence pms like I hate your alliance or I am Orc! what are ya gonna do about it. If someone sends you pms like that for a long period of time, I dont think your gonna keep checking them so he did not and that is why he did not reply.
 
I hope that made sence

that's a pretty good theory.  in fact, i've let my inbox grow to 18 messages once before i even looked at any of them.  i took the time to delete them all now though.

actually i did respond to his first message telling me he would send another.. all i said was he could do whatever he wanted.  in no way did i say i would answer him.   :P  

how long did you work on that bs?

nice comeback.  you're a smart one.
 

sounded to me like you thought it was a good comback so played along like that really happened

Well mabey he played along with it because it really did happen. He does not have to explain anything to the enemy (Orc Army). Mabey he wants to keep it secret because he does not want it in the enemy's hands. Mabey there is a good and fair reason to not telling you but it is confedential to the enemy. Why would he reason with the enemy?

again, I hope that made sence :D  

what is wrong with you people??? LOL  

I agree w/ RB...I only wake up early to check mine...only cuz I have to wake up @ 6:30 and I don't take that long to get ready...at least Gand's reason was a little more legitimate.  Evil how OLD are you?

so your saying you know what happened before he told you? and i said nothing about reason with the enemy

no it didnt make much sense

o yes we really care how he spends his money so we would really wanna no becuase that is an important part in this war ;)  

I am not in TGA yet so he did not tell me what happened. I said mabey. Read more carfully. I am sure he does not cheat. He does not need to in order to defeat Orc Army. You are all wide open farms.

well he apparently went along like it did happen but he couldnt say it for himself so like i said before

how long did it take you to come up with that bs

It took me 2 seconds because it was common sence. You would not check your mail either if all you get is spam. And again, He does not have to answer to yous.

acually i would check it and tell them to leave me the fuk alone that simple....common sense not really it easier to get an autobuyer then stay on all the time but i dont have one stop being a pussy and play for real so you get some gold stolen who gives a shit you have so many people it dont matter about a few mil

Mabey he just leaves his computer on all day with KoC on and there is someone farming him every turn and that is where his gold goes. There are many possibilities.

but we have people attack and his defense goes up how do you explain that

i suddenly have an urge to spam tommyboy's box all to hell.....must control.....

go ahead i dont care dont bother me if you even no my koc name

oh....my.....god


"i don't care don't bother me"  double negative so another words you........... :blink:  :blink:  wow, i can feel myself becoming dumber ever time i read that post

"no"... it's "know" you moron, get a dictionary, or learn to spell, being lazy is not a good enough reason to post crap like that

Just trying to read it makes my eye's want to bleed.  I don't consider myself an english expert by any means, but i know i'm not that bad.

Biteme... how old are you? You know you're arguing with a 13 year old right?

Yeah well 13 year olds should be able to read and write.  Consider it as us doing a favor for you.  We're educating members of your alliance.  Do you enjoy reading shit posts like that on your message boards?

Doesn't bother me. After seeing homeless guys pulling out their cocks and pissing into the road facing cars, a bit of bad grammer doesn't  bother me.

And I sure as hell am not going to try to bag on a 13 year olds grammer.

I had a vision where an old lady pulled out her penis and started peeing into a  garbage can.  that was a weird weird day.

oh and in response to where disk's money went I spent it on porn.

I can believe that.

Now now, lets be civil. Biter, try to refrain from jeering at 13 year olds who will grow up hopelessly alone in society. Dont try to help because it'll only be a sad waste on your efforts. :(

And to Orc Army: do you not get it? Every suggestion you have made has been met with a counter-argument. Even if both arguments are shitty, it still means you're not gonna get anywhere because its deadlocked. In chess, we call it a stalemate and shake hands. I dont know why you guys are so fucking persistant in pressing a dead matter. There is no way to prove diskreet is using an autobuyer, and given that, proof showing that he is NOT using a buyer is not relevant. Your first point is unbased, thus followup arguments are unnecessary.

Just drop the topic... its getting tiring and this is only the second time I've read this thread.  <_<  

actually I wouldnt waste money on porn just go to the store read it there. absorb as much as posible and  remember it for future use :P

and what about video's.... I don't think they would let you watch the videos there,

you rent them from the video store or  download them off the internet.  or make your own.  or steal from a friends collection

Okkkkay this is such a strange topic... and i know what he does with his money....The megic Money fairy takes it...Duh you should all know that

no its stolen by the CIA to fund their research into mind control silly

the porn?  hmm i need to work for the CIA

that too

nuts to the CIA, just go for world domination.

Hey, I'm doing that, I don't want no competition!

hey SS if you take over the would can i work for you?

I think Stewie is beating you on that front...

sure just because I'm not a baby with a british accent does not mean I can't take over the world.

Pah, Stewie doesn't even exist, how can he beat me? :P

Sure, what you want to do?

Can I be warlord?

Why would I need a warlord when everyone will have to stop warring (or I'll blow them up)?

Because its a cool title and a great way to start a conversation. And its also an excuse for me to walk around in armor with a sword.

Oh, well, fair enough then. :)

well a mouse with an overly large brain almost did until his peanut headed friend always screwed him up
(Pinky and The Brain)

can i have England and both poles?  they will be yours but I would love to rule them for you.

I want Brazil :D and maybe Candida :P

ooo and since she cant spell Canada can I have that too?

That's how I SAY Canada.  I can spell it right but I like my lingo.

well he may have thought you meant the candida infection.  which is kinda unpleasent so I'm not gonna go into the details.

Candida infection?

yes go here:

Candida infection (http://candidayeastinfections.com/description.htm)

actually its not that icky i was just didnt feel like going into it.  

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Stewie is great though XD

*closed* woulda been left open if everyone went off topic...

thank you for fixing that