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Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Biteme360 on January 05, 2004, 03:15:54 AM Quote Maximum PC vol 9 no.1, January 2004, p. 51 Second Annual Softy Awards The creme of this year's software creme made its debut in the November issue of Maximum PC, where it soundly defeated Internet Explorer's de facto web browsing standard in a tense, action packed Head 2 Head. Firebird is nothing short of a revelatory experience. User-friendly efficiencies like tabbed browsing,[if your in this area you knwo what that is]..., are a gratifying departure from IE's clunky, multi-window approch. You can even save entire sets of tabs as bookmarks, so that all your favorite web sites automatically load whenever you launch the browser.[or all your best farms ;)] The integrated pop-up blockers effectively emilinates the web's most annoying attribute. Is it any wonder we're hooked? Sure, you can download pop-up blockers and customizations for IE, but shouldn't these features on included by defult? We fell in love with Firebird's open-ended nature and the access it gives us to an ever-expanding slew of interesting extensions. And did we mention that it's free? The best part, however, is that Firebird hasn't ever hit version 1.0 yet. Actually thats the next-to-best part. The best part is that Firebird is Mozilla's direct challenge to Microsoft on the Web browser front. No matter who wins, the battle will give us all a better browsing experience. Just wanted to give some recognition to everyone who uses mozilla, yes, it truely is the best. to those who don't the mozilla website is http://www.mozilla.com (http://www.mozilla.com) the link to download the latest version of mozilla firebird is http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/ (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/) Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: RipperRoo on January 05, 2004, 05:54:27 PM How big is it?
And what really is the difference? Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: ns33 on January 05, 2004, 11:24:10 PM Really small. Its based on Netscape, which is somewhat more stabler than IE. I highly recommend Mozzy Firebird for its efficiency, its compact size, and its easy-to-use features. /me rates it 5/5 :grass: :grass: :grass:
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: evilknight on January 05, 2004, 11:28:53 PM damn straight, that thing kicks ass. i havnt used it in about 2 months due to some kinda error *my asshole dad deleted it* but i think now would be a good time to get it b4 they start charging for it.
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: SS on January 11, 2004, 02:56:45 PM I find Mozilla (and the Firebird variant) to be slower than IE, in both loading and reacting.
I find the non-standard appearance and inflexibility to be a considerable irritation. I find the multiple niggles in Moz's XHTML rendering code to be infuriating when trying to create standard-compliant code. most of all though, I find that doing things different to IE for no good reason (eg: Ctrl-click instead of Shift-Click to open new windows) is just so fÂucking annoying. Yeah, I don't like Moz that much. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: evilknight on January 11, 2004, 11:21:27 PM well, ill concede that it's a tad slower, but idk, could that have anything to do with the built in popup blocker? im no technician, so idk. also, it's not that bad for me, seeing as how i just browse the internet, i dont code or anything...yet.
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: ns33 on January 11, 2004, 11:27:48 PM ARE YOUR INTERNETS ARE BELONG TO MOZZY
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Biteme360 on January 12, 2004, 04:36:01 PM some little things i found on an anti-IE site
(http://www.toastytech.com/evil/msiemoz.gif) (http://www.toastytech.com/evil/ieborg.gif) Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Hornet on February 10, 2004, 10:04:58 AM Just to dispel a myth here: Firebird is NOT slower to start than IE, because IE is already running - it's an integral part of Windows. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: SS on February 11, 2004, 04:59:47 AM IE loads browser windows faster that Mozilla. The reason isn't important, it changes nothing.
On this machine, Mozilla Firefox takes nine seconds for initial session, and three seconds for consecutive ones; IE takes half that time. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: smi256 on February 11, 2004, 07:16:29 AM What about security? ;)
and CPU/RAM usage sorry, those are the things I have to worry about on this computer <_< Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Hornet on February 11, 2004, 11:53:18 AM I've never noticed any high CPU or RAM peaks when fb is running, and it's far more secure than IE, as patches are usually written on the same day as a sploit is discovered. And you just gotta love tabbed browsing! Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: SS on February 11, 2004, 07:30:31 PM I hate tabbed browsing!
Firefox does only use ~10MB less memory than IE, but that's not a problem when you've got a nice chunky 512MB. :P If you're running an antique it might matter. Never had any security problems with IE - just disable all the ActiveX crap and use a decent firewall. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: smi256 on February 13, 2004, 08:10:30 AM I don't have that much RAM, and firewalls don't like me.. <_< no really, the logs get filled with blocked connections FROM MY ISP *cries in frustration*
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: diskreet on February 16, 2004, 07:21:37 AM firefox is the best. sure there are bugs here and there.. it's not even at version 1.0 yet.
it's open source, can be programmed easily, and has a crap load of extensions you can add.. useful ones at that. makes my life a lot easier when creating new web pages and debugging javascript and other peoples' faulty html tables. i can eliminate images just by clicking on them, i can force a border on tables, i can select only specific cells of a table at a time (for copy/paste purposes), i can see http headers, customize my browser... the list goes on and on. as far as the page rendering being slower, you can change the setting that renders the page to not delay. by default it's set to delay the rendering until it receives most or all of the html to save having to re-draw the page. in fact you can customize just about every single action the browser takes. oh, and the automatic downloading does save extra clicks if you take the time to set it up. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: SS on February 16, 2004, 10:57:40 PM Quote as far as the page rendering being slower, you can change the setting that renders the page to not delay. Tell how please. :) Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Hornet on March 10, 2004, 02:24:16 PM Not in Firefox you can't. In Mozilla itself you can, but not Firefox. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: SS on March 10, 2004, 02:40:19 PM Bah. *mutters violently*
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: matt_the_shark on March 10, 2004, 03:27:02 PM how is muttering violent? :huh:
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Perdition on March 10, 2004, 03:54:17 PM mutter violent things and it becomes violent. and if you kinda snarl your mutterings out it seems violent
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: matt_the_shark on March 10, 2004, 04:58:42 PM so...if i snarl at someone, i could knock them out? :P
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: SS on March 10, 2004, 05:01:10 PM Violence doesn't require physical contact you na-na.
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Hornet on March 11, 2004, 10:23:10 AM And neither does spam by the looks of things! SS, you shouldn't have set the post/rank boundaries so high - you've trained them all to be spammers of the first degree. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: SS on March 11, 2004, 10:32:52 AM I think they'd spam regardless of the rankings. :miffed:
I just need to be a bit 'heavier' on people posting silly comments. *glares at matt* Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Guest on March 11, 2004, 03:00:46 PM Back on the topic, if you really don't tabs, install this extension (http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/tabkiller). Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Hornet on March 11, 2004, 03:42:30 PM That was me using Firefox, which doesn't have me automatically logged in. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: matt_the_shark on March 11, 2004, 05:17:57 PM Quote I think they'd spam regardless of the rankings. :miffed: well, the violent muttering thing was kinda obscure...:unsure:I just need to be a bit 'heavier' on people posting silly comments. *glares at matt* please don't hurt me...:( :paranoid: Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Hornet on March 15, 2004, 11:49:00 AM Why are there two topics about blocking adverts when this one already deals with it?! A default install of Firefox has advert blocking abilities, and with an extension or two nothing can get past it. That's the beauty of extensions; they let you virtually build your own browser, without having to learn shedloads of XML. Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 24, 2004, 01:23:44 PM hm.....a little help someone? I went and installed a bunch of extensions (all at once, unfortunately, didnt do it one at a time then restart mozzy) and now mozilla is definitely broken....i get this when i try to open it:
Quote Error launching browser window:No XBL binding for browser any way to fix this? Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: RipperRoo on April 24, 2004, 03:58:25 PM Uninstall the plugins?
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Everous on April 24, 2004, 10:56:52 PM get firefox...this is one of the errors they fixed...apparently...
i saw something on the site about this... Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 25, 2004, 06:21:25 AM i *have* firefox. i think. i thought i installed it.....*goes to check*
oh, ripper--after the error, mozzy promptly closes itself. cant really uninstall em. :( Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: RipperRoo on April 25, 2004, 01:03:53 PM Open C: drive, goto the directory, open the "plugins" folder, delete the incriminating files...
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: FragMaster1972 on April 25, 2004, 06:32:23 PM ive tried that. no dice.
and turns out i had firebird,m but when i went and installed firefox....i just dont get any error messages now. i still dont get any browser window. =/ Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: RipperRoo on April 25, 2004, 09:40:33 PM You uninstalled and deleted all the remaining Firebird files first I assume....
Title: Mozilla Firebird Post by: Everous on April 26, 2004, 04:27:18 PM well ok...i looked on the site (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) and found this on the front page
Quote "no XBL binding for browser" error Please read the release notes (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/) before installing. If after installing Firefox you receive this error, follow these instructions (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/fix-extensions.html) to correct the problem. |