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The Great Alliance => The Great City => Topic started by: Lyban on November 06, 2003, 11:00:36 PM



Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lyban on November 06, 2003, 11:00:36 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but in the last couple of days I've seen some pretty bad moves. First of all, one of my officers used 1 attack turn to feel a guy out, but it was defended so they left him alone. This guy had 233 soldiers, while my officer had 8. He turned around and launched 15 attack turns at my officer, which were defended!!  :P

You'd think that he would have learned something from that, but no, he bought some more knives and launched another attack (15 turns), and won 800 gold pieces...My officer was starting to get annoyed by this for the simple fact that the repairs were costing more than they could afford from TBG, so I sent him a 'Back off' message which was to the point but fair. This morning I logged in to find that he'd gone to his commander (who is ranked abt 480 or something) and asked him to get me. It didn't work...  :D .

I'd love to think that this is a one-off act of stupidity on the part of a newbie, but it almost seems that there is an overall increase in mental ineptitude of players in KOC. As I look back through my attack logs, I see more and more attacks by people who have no place attacking me. They get slaughtered and lose a few soldiers and then I never hear from them again. I could understand it if they used only 1 attack turn, but to lose 15??

Is it just me?? Has anybody else encountered this??  :blink:  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: SS on November 07, 2003, 02:03:48 AM
The whole world is stupid.


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Saladin on November 07, 2003, 02:35:04 AM
the epithet of all mankind should be "people are stupid" no actually it should be "people are ignorant"


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: SS on November 07, 2003, 02:46:12 AM
Hows about "people are stupid ignorant fools"? :P


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Thamior on November 07, 2003, 04:52:12 AM
I like stupid better.  Where I'm from ignorant is a VERY STRONG word.  Stupid implies that people are dumb and make bad decisions.  Ignorant is used more for someone who was raised uneducated and does hateful things because they don't know any better, like a racist.


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lyban on November 07, 2003, 04:58:08 AM
Hmmm, so it sounds like maybe ignorant was the word that I should have used in this case...


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 07, 2003, 05:26:00 AM
A few days ago, one guy dealt me 2k attack damage, while I hade at least 400k counterattack damage.  Since he was ranked link 40,000, it just doesn't make sense!  LOL  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: smi256 on November 07, 2003, 05:43:55 AM
I've also seen alot of people in my attack log that like you said, "have no place in attacking me".  if very strange, and perhaps the mantality of the people playing KOC has gone down due to the lack of inforcement in the rules.  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Saladin on November 07, 2003, 05:18:29 PM
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I like stupid better.  Where I'm from ignorant is a VERY STRONG word.  Stupid implies that people are dumb and make bad decisions.  Ignorant is used more for someone who was raised uneducated and does hateful things because they don't know any better, like a racist.
well most people are like that anyway. btw smi, u should change ur avi back to its orginal size


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lyban on November 07, 2003, 11:55:47 PM
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I've also seen alot of people in my attack log that like you said, "have no place in attacking me".  if very strange, and perhaps the mantality of the people playing KOC has gone down due to the lack of inforcement in the rules.
Here's another case in point...

I'm currently ranked abt 5k, and I logged in this morning and found that some guy who was ranked abt 12k had sent 8 spies in on a sab mission...no recon first, nothing. 8 Spies. He didn't even try to attack me afterwards.

I wasn't aware that spies are cheap enough to triain now that people can afford to throw them away like that.


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 08, 2003, 01:50:30 AM
People keep reconing me, then when they fail, they attack with 15 turns.  Hmmm...  <_<  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: bofor on November 11, 2003, 01:50:58 AM
they probably decided (incorrectly I assume) that with your CA high enough to catch their spies your DA couldn't be that high.


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 11, 2003, 01:53:56 AM
I always assume that if they have a high enough CA, that means they're really good, and a sure defeat for me (plus I can't sab any of their weapons to bring them down to a manageable level).  :rolleyes:  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: smi256 on November 11, 2003, 05:00:20 AM
that's nice of you to give them that much creadit Bofor
but that logic simply fails (for the attacker, not you) when you get into the three digit rankings


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 11, 2003, 06:23:06 AM
I doubt many of us have to worry about that...  :P  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lyban on November 11, 2003, 06:46:08 AM
Three digit rankings are still a dream to some of us.

It starts to fail in the four digit rankings as well...that logic is fine but why not try 1 attack turn, instead of 15.


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: FragMaster1972 on November 11, 2003, 06:57:27 AM
im gettin close....ranked around 1200  :)  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: bofor on November 11, 2003, 01:53:12 PM
Depends on if you have attack turns to burn. I to always try 1 turn first but the weapon damage and soldiers lost seems as great with 1 turn as with 15, and with never enough gold back to cover it. If I had over 1000 attack turns I might waste them and go with 15, after all some people will end the age with lots of attack turns left.


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 11, 2003, 06:53:16 PM
...And no targets to use them on.  I have so many attack turns, it's scary.  LOL  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lyban on November 17, 2003, 03:21:39 AM
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Depends on if you have attack turns to burn. I to always try 1 turn first but the weapon damage and soldiers lost seems as great with 1 turn as with 15, and with never enough gold back to cover it. If I had over 1000 attack turns I might waste them and go with 15, after all some people will end the age with lots of attack turns left.
If you have a read thru the general site info under the Help, it does say that using more attack turns yields better gold, but that you get more weapons damage as a result.

You're right about the actual damage inflicted, that always seems to be basically the same, but I have found that when I check my weapons the damage is twice or more for 15 turns what it is for 1. Then again, they seem to have all sorts of interesting factors built into the equations. I did 1 attack on a guy who was sabbing my officer the other day. He did 49 damage (49, not 49k) to me, and when I went to repair my weapons it cost me just over 60k...


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: FragMaster1972 on November 17, 2003, 04:05:17 AM
thats not bad at all, i woulda expected a lot more. for me to repair weapons, its around 4-6k per point, depending on what im repairing  :(  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: smi256 on November 17, 2003, 08:57:59 AM
ya, I know what you mean.  my cheapest repair is 11K... <_<
I just buy more equipment to fix broken stuff.  got'a love that rounding up


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: bofor on November 17, 2003, 01:00:13 PM
For me to repair battleaxes it's just over 33K per point so if I go with 1 attack turn even if I win I lose money. Live off farms so I don't have to use the 1 turn to see if I can beat them.  :(  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lyban on November 18, 2003, 02:31:44 AM
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thats not bad at all, i woulda expected a lot more. for me to repair weapons, its around 4-6k per point, depending on what im repairing  :(
Yeah, my repairs were just over 4k per point...so that was 15points I lost in that one attack, when he did 49 damage.

 


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 18, 2003, 04:20:00 AM
I usually get between 5-9 points of damage, regardless of how many turns I use.  Interesting...  <_<  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: mcge on November 19, 2003, 03:39:32 PM
yeah that sounds pretty stupid...  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: bofor on November 23, 2003, 02:50:11 AM
Explain these attacks to me
4 days ago ********* Attack defended 11 0 0 1,166 *,***,***details
4 days ago ********* Attack defended 11 0 0 585 *,***,***

The peson who attacked me had no commander and no officers listed
why 11 attack turns ?
why did he attack the second time?
 


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 23, 2003, 03:41:26 AM
What an idiot!  Maybe he thought that attacking with 11 turns would lower your defense/damage your weapons enough so you would be defeated?  Or he pressed the refresh button by accident!  LOL  


Title: Stoopid!!
Post by: mcge on November 23, 2003, 12:07:09 PM
:D that dude was stupid :)