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46  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Michael Jackson on: June 15, 2005, 05:12:06 PM
No, she's saying they should get the same treatment the average monkey does.  
47  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Birthdays on: June 15, 2005, 04:20:47 AM
Alphabetical.
48  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Birthdays on: June 14, 2005, 09:05:51 PM
happpy birthday evil, hornet, and laniar.  *eats cake*
49  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Solo on: June 14, 2005, 09:02:41 PM
*hands galmort a cookie* Glad you're alright.
50  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Birthdays on: June 12, 2005, 05:25:31 PM
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you're going to wash and dry my sheep?
just don't machine wash, and no hot water; they might shrink  Sad
 :sheep:
LOL mini sheep!
51  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Avatar and Signature Discussion on: June 07, 2005, 12:07:28 AM
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well if a new one comes along in that time we could go there, otherwise i don't care, low population one though Wink

preferebly i'd be alliance unless you guys have objections...
Shocked I object!  the horde is so much funner
52  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Star Wars Episode III 1337 Trailer on: June 03, 2005, 04:12:48 AM
are you serious?  Sure, it had excellent graphics and the violence was fun,  but the story blows.  I'd wait for it to come out on vid. and rent it.  Not worth the $8
53  BPSITE / Temple of Caliginosity / Bad morning on: May 26, 2005, 09:48:43 PM
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Blowjobs on the motorway?
*hands ripper a cookie*
54  BPSITE / Temple of Caliginosity / Bad morning on: May 26, 2005, 01:02:02 AM
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/agrees

Actually, young people are worse than old ones (you should see how some seniors drive in our school parking lot)...  :unsure:
that's because old people rarely give/recieve roadhead...
55  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Avatar and Signature Discussion on: May 26, 2005, 01:00:46 AM
you can't eat healing food when you're standing up

no, but i was looking Tongue
56  BPSITE / BPSITE Headquarters / Avatar and Signature Discussion on: May 25, 2005, 03:12:40 AM
love the sig lanair.  Reminds me of the first time I went to the store after I started playing WoW.  I was muttering the uses of everything my mom put in the shopping cart Smiley  And for the first month or so, I refused to eat anything standing up because it would've been a waste of food...
57  The Great Alliance / The Great City / Dark Throne Sign-Ups on: May 17, 2005, 11:55:23 PM
The admins are great in DT the game itself gets a little boring after a while but 'tis the habit of mmorpgs
58  BPSITE / Arts & Literature / Currently I am reading on: May 17, 2005, 11:52:50 PM
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Although the studies that are contained in this book are a little over 40 years old, they are as relevant as ever. Although Milgram wrote with his eye to the past - he looked back to the Holocaust and to My Lai (he finally wrote the book in 1972, 10 years after the studies were completed) - his voice has proven to be not only prophetic, but of continuing insight and relevance for understanding group dynamics of power and violence.

Milgram's studies were done between 1961 and 1962 while he was at Yale; they were all variations on a theme: a unknowing participant (the subject-teacher) was brought to believe that s/he was participating in a learning study. The other two main participants were a man who posed as the student (the learner) and one who posed as the principal investigator (the authority figure).

The subject-teacher was told that the learning would occur in this way: the student would be hooked up to an electric shock generator while the teacher would read a set of word pairs, which the student would repeat back. When the student missed one of the word pairs, he would be shocked by the "teacher" in increasingly higher shocks (the shocks increased in 15 volt increments), up to 450 volts (which was marked, along with the 435 volt mark, with XXX).

The basic goal of the study was to find out how far the "teachers" would go despite the cries, pounding and eventual silence on the part of the students. The frightening finding was that more often than not, the vast majority of teachers followed through with the command to continue the experiment, which was given by the man acting as the principal investigator every time one of the "teachers" wanted to quit. [It should be noted, however, that the experiment was designed such that the "student" was never shocked, as the student was an actor, typically in a connected room and could only be heard via microphone.


One of the things that makes reading Milgram's studies so chilling is the scientific exactness of Milgram's own writing style as he describes the studies. The moral and ethical issues raised in these studies, although addressed by Milgram in his narrating the book, are also expressed in this same mathematically cold style. It's almost like a bad science fiction movie where our whole human story is narrated - moral failures and all - with robotic precision. It's unsettling.

Of course, it *should* be: any experiment that deals with human interaction on such a violent and perversely authoritarian level ought to get us a bit uncomfortable. Of course, Milgram also notes that when the subjects were confronted with their own complicitness, they often blamed others or excused themselves in some way. It really does give a tremendous insight into the psychology of human beings: when faced with our own evil, we try to excuse it rather than deal with it.

If, at the end of reading Milgram's book, we aren't questioning ourselves and our ability to be violent and to promote the spread of violence by being passive, we have missed the entire point of the book. Milgram's goal is to not simply report the collection and analysis of data, but to engage the reader on a fundamentally moral level. He cites Hannah Arendt's work Eichman in Jerusalem and notes that evil is not necessarily expressed in a pro-active way; indeed, it can be far more subtle but no less dangerous.

Milgram's book is one well worth the effort. It reveals an element of human being that is so easy to forget, especially given that our culture is so bent on *denying* any element of - or at least any potential for - evil within ourselves. Of course, such blindness to the reality of evil and tragedy is what makes *letting it happen* so easy.

I <3 copy and paste
59  BPSITE / Arts & Literature / Currently I am reading on: May 17, 2005, 01:12:29 AM
Currently reading Obedience To Authority, an interesting book based on an amusing study that took place at Yale in 1961 and 1962. Too lazy to really get into it, but if you're bored you can always read the blurb on amazon about it.
60  BPSITE / Temple of Caliginosity / LONG LIVE THE FILIBUSTER on: May 16, 2005, 12:05:02 AM
It's been around for ages but liberals are getting unhappy because now they may be forced to say something semi-coherent instead of just babbeling on about nothing.
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