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well...im in highschool and im not the best student...so when my grades dropped...my dad took my computer away...and now i want to buy a new one because i cant get the old one back...so i was wonder what the cheapest setup would be but that would still have some power....im lookin at about a 200$ budgit here...i can put one together or buy one retail...i have all the accessories...just need a tower....

most likely useless...but i found this (http://www.gamespy.com/hardware/march03/bgm/) while browsing gamespy

Hmmm, hows about this:

$35 - 1.3GHz Duron
$41 - SocketA Motherboard, onboard Audio & LAN cards
$33 - 256MB PC2100 DDR-RAM
$35 - Geforce 2 MX
$70 - 40GB 7200RPM Western Digital Caviliar
$20 - Midi Tower case

That comes to $234, which is over the budget, though you could squeeze that down by getting SD-RAM instead of DDR-RAM, and a smaller hard-drive, but that depends on how flexible your budget is...

Talking about pc's, how much could i get a 2.5ghz, 512k, 40gb pc for?

((sorry for being off topic but XD i love that sig))

would you like fries with that sir?

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hm, if u'r lookin 4 something cheap, why not just buy a used one off of somebody u know?
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^*Strike demanding that u remove some of Ev's posts for spamming*
(well hey, if i gotta suffer....)

no one that i know wants to sell a computer...and hmm...that looks like a nice layout SS...ty...but since my "dad" aka the biggests beep beeeeeeeep beeep that ever beep'd isnt helpin me out...i have to build the computer myself...which i dont know how to do...unfortunately...so i wonder if i might be able to look it up on the web...is it more or less ez?

edit: hey SS...where'd you get those prices from? a comp show? cuzz im pretty sure that they arent retail

That wasn't spam, it was a funny joke. :P


Thusa, those prices are from ebuyer.com which doesn't have a great reputation over in Britain, but does have decent prices.
As for building a computer, no it isn't hard (says the person who hasn't actually built one :miffed:) because all the bits just slot together really. It might be best if you know a techy/geeky person that would be willing to help to ask them, but if not then there are plenty of websites with helpful hints and stuff.

heh....thanx....i think i might have some1 in mind...or i might jus look online and see what i can find in that regen...or jus buy a 'for dummies' book?  ;)  

You mean a base unit comprising of Athlon 2500, 512MB DDR RAM and a 40GB HDD?
Shouldn't be more than £400 for a basic system. Decent gpu, monitor, mouse, etc will add a couple of hundred onto that.

http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/index.htm (http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/index.htm)

i was lookin around a bit and stumbled onto this website...this guy seems to know what hes talking about more or less...although...since i dont really have the choice of buying online (im 15 w/o a credit card) im going to have to look around for the cheap parts that i need...i might be able to get my grandfather (he buys mad stuff online) to buy it and i will pay him back cash, which sounds like a good idea from my point of view...i still need to find someone to oversee this whole operation of mine who has a good knowledge of computers and is willing to share it...

Oooh, that is a good site. <bookmarks/> :)

/me motions to ss, 'cause he's hella smart

Yes I am [/bigheaded] But I'm also only online, and building a computer really needs someone there in person.

You willing to pay fares for flights to the US and back? :P

go get a job as a stuard whatever u call em that works on a plane. eventually you'd end up over there.


hopefully :P  

LOL air fares...i dont know about that one...but...m a y b e i could coax my dad into helpin me out...like a father son bonding thing and use him...that would be nice...its kind of awkward to ask your friends brother to help you build a Pc...LOL...maybe ill look around school and see if i cant find anyone...when school starts anyway...

o m g...i got a computer (compaq persario 7180) with a WHOLE 100 mhz and 32 mb ram!!! Wohoo...i think...anyways...i get it all setup and boot it up...after i get my bro to put in an ethernet card...he installs the drivers and everything...so i open up internet explorer and!!! it doesnt work...err...what should i do...i have dsl in this house and 56k is out of the question...should i like get a new ethernet? or what?

WEEEE!!! I'm getting a DELL!!!

Dell Dimension XPS - 3.0 GHz CPU, 1 GB memory, 128 bit video card....SWEET!!!!!!!!  LOL

 :cool:  

First question - is the ethernet card connected to the network server/hub/router.

Second: If so, are you using the correct sort of cable: there are two types, straight and crossover, I think you need the latter for DSL.

Next: Are other computers connected? If so are you able to swap you ethernet card with theirs, and see if either computer can connect.
(if yours can, the card is broken; if yours cannot, the card probably isn't broken but your machine/settings are; if theirs cannot (but could before) then the card is broken; if theirs can still connect, the card works and your machine/settings are not correctly setup).

Finally: What version of Windows have you got running on your 'new' machine?

1. router

2. ehh...not sure...

3. swapping would take some time...so i cant answer that cuzz my bro prolly wont wanna participate...

4. win98

Okay, make sure everything is plugged in & switched on, then open IE and type http://192.168.254.254 (http://192.168.254.254) into the address bar. If that gives an error, try 192.168.0.1. Also, make sure that if you have a firewall installed, that you have it turned off, or at least allowing all traffic through.

an internal error occured in the windows internet connects...thats what i says when i try those addresses...im not quite sure what it means :/

Internal Error... that's both good and bad.

Good because it means the problem is before the network.
Bad because I am not actually sure where the problem is.

Does going to other web pages ( http://www.yahoo.com/ (http://www.yahoo.com/) or http://127.0.0.1/ (http://127.0.0.1/) ) give the same or a different error?

yeah...going to any web pages gives the same error...and when i open ie...it starts off with this navigator thing...even when i put a home page on

Hmmm, what do you mean by "navigator thing"? :miffed:

lemme explain...

the address is about:NavigationCanceled

Navigation  Canceled

+ Helpful Hints

+ More Information

is what the site looks like

those links describe the errors that might have occured with page loading...like...if you were going to a page on clicked stop  :hmmm:  

Hmmm, I'm going to have to consult with the Networking Gods and see if they can help with finding a solution.

Oooh, something I should have asked already...

Open Device Manager (WinKey+Pause, select from there somewhere) then look down to Network adapters.
Clicking the plus should expand the list to show your ethernet card.
Double-click (or Right-click:properties) and check the Device status box - does it have anything in there?

Also, try checking the Resources tab to see if any conflicts are listed, if there are then we'll work on how to remove them, but hopefully there wont be.

Oh, and if you could post the name of your ethernet card (which will be near the top of the properties window), that would also be useful.

device status - everything is working properly

conflicts - none

name of ethernet: D-Link DFE-350TX+PCI adapter

thanx a bunch so far SS...i owe you

I cant find a good pc around 700 bucks, can someone help :blink:  

are you willing to buy parts and assemble one yourself? It's the cheapest way to go and you'll get exactly what you want; you won't have to settle for what the company offers. I and several of the other techies here could offer some assistance in the assembly process if you needed it, and theres some walkthroughs on how to assemble a pc if youre up for it.

Sounds cool but I dont have a place to get the parts  :(  

online. www.pricewatch.com

you would have to tell me what to buy. :)  

Well first things first: If youre not looking to spend a lot, Intel CPUs and NVidia GFX are out of the question.  
An AMD Athlon XP 1800 runs at 1.53 ghz, only costs $50.
An ATi Radeon 8500 will run around $70.
PC2100 DDR Ram 256mb - $31, 512mb - $64.  
60gb Western Digital Hard Drive - $55.
Asus A7S333 Mobo - $55
Soundblaster Audigy - $50 (optional, mobo has built in sound, but audigy is much nicer)
Ethernet card - $10 (only if you use broadband)
Lite-On 40x10x40 cdrecorder - $31
Samsung 48x cdrom - $17 (only need it if you want to do direct cd-to-cd copies w/o copying to hard drive first)
case - $20-30 for a cheap generic one, $50-100 for a nice one

add that up and see if you like the price  :D  there's still some other things (cables, keyboard, mouse, speaks) but that stuff doesn't cost too much, and you could always use your current ones if ya wanted.

*writes it all down* damn thats kool man but i would need somebody to do it for me and thats a hassel, but i might consider. Today i went to costco and saw a emachine with 2400 AMD xp processor, 512mb ddr and S3Prosavage8. It comes with a cd/rw and dvd drives, speakers subwoofers, keyboard, mouse, and a 17" flat panel monitor. Does that sound cool or should i just build my own.  :unsure:  

whats the price for that? and s3savage sucks, can you upgrade that?  ya know, you could always find a small computer store (not a place like best buy, circuit city, etc. some small privately owned place) and have them build one for you. You still get to pick what you want, without all the bs the big companies give. emachines isnt as bad as the rest, but they still irritate me.

do you live in cali? or what? just find a fry's or another good site is newegg.com ^_^

yeah i live in cali  :)  but frag where i live we dont have personally business owned place  <_<  i think im gonna get the emachine.  :unsure:  oh yeah and the price is $629.99 thats pretty cool. :)  

none? you're not looking hard enough, there's gotta be one somewhere. look in the yellow pages, probably under computer repair. most likely sales will list major companies, repair should have the smaller businesses. personally, id recommend looking into a custom-built (even if not self-built) computer over any preassembled one, but....... *shrugs* your money.

but i can always change the pre-assembled one right? like upgrades and other stuff.

Yeah, probably. But best to start with a base that suits your needs.

yeah i think im gonna stick to the emachine thanx guys  :D  

within limits. I dunno bout emachines, but some companies put special adapters and stuff in their systems so you have to upgrade through them. again, limiting your options and forcing you to spend more than necessary. and their systems usually arent meant to be easy to work inside like a custom system--wires everywhere, hard to access stuff, no rolled edges=cuts, etc. but once again.....your money.

well any new comp would be faster than mine, and way better. <_<  

oops sorry that was my post. forgot to log in

u spanner

you mean spammer? i wouldnt call that spam, he was clarifying who the guest post was. anyone coulda posted the guest one, and guest posts dont get posts counted, so it didnt help out his post count either.

spanner  LOL  LOL  

um emachines blow sorry to post so late but a lotta of work kinda sucks and all if you guys know what i mean...we had an emachine within 2 days of heavy gaming and working it died on us -_- so ya...umm hmmm go to the library get the comp user magazine and look through there they have super good deals with comps you can boot yourself and what not yup yup

I wouldnt have a doubt that it would blow because of "heavy gaming" im gonna try it out, and if I dont like it ill take it back. I'm not going to be gaming anyways.

go with dell they are prob the best. i think they have liek the best processor or sumthin (says the man typing on an ibm)

if you insist on buying from a major company, then Alienware is the best you're gonna do. Falcon NW is pretty damn good from what I hear too. Dell, Gateway, HP, Compaq, and any others that im forgetting suck. didnt include macs cause it goes w/o saying that they suck.  

Isn't alienware just for gaming because its so hardcore.

nah, they make midrange systems too. theyre just expensive cause they do so much testing etc to make sure it works perfectly when you get it.

how much do they run for :huh:  

5-15 thousand if youre tryin to spend a ton......but normally $1500-3000

What all do they have in them for that much :blink:  

a lot. and they get tested _very_ thoroughly for any possible problems before they ship. all hardware and software settings are optimized, faulty hardware replaced, unnecessary programs deleted, etc. They're made to run smoothly and quickly.

sounds sweet after i become a millionare i'll buy one for each room. LOL