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The Great Alliance => The Great City => Topic started by: underruler on January 18, 2004, 01:01:23 AM

Title: WAR RELATED THING HERE
Post by: underruler on January 18, 2004, 01:01:23 AM

If you have a issue regarding the war PLEASE DISCUSS IT HERE.

DO NOT SPAM THE THREAD FOR NEW MEMBERS.

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Post by: Lord Lanair on January 18, 2004, 03:21:54 AM

Wow! Under actually cares about spam! LOL

er... um..... lemme think of a good topic... :unsure:

Oh, is the war still going, and when will it end? :miffed:

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Post by: underruler on January 18, 2004, 08:18:59 AM

I meant that if people would like to discuss the war or have an argument they can discuss it here. The stupid people over there keep spamming the new member thread instead of oh let's say MAKING A NEW TOPIC. There is such a thing.

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 19, 2004, 12:40:22 AM

ya. Why would someone want to read an houe of spam.
Back on topic now
Did the Orc Army actually think they would win this war? They only have attack bonus when we have spy, defence and income.

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Post by: Perdition on January 19, 2004, 02:19:27 AM

as long as we can spam here to its all good :)

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Post by: underruler on January 19, 2004, 04:53:26 AM

I don't know the details...knowing things confuses me.

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 19, 2004, 04:12:04 PM

What do you mean? :huh:

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Post by: Dethpower on January 19, 2004, 05:05:08 PM

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ya. Why would someone want to read an houe of spam.
Back on topic now
Did the Orc Army actually think they would win this war? They only have attack bonus when we have spy, defence and income.

LOL, no we dont think we can win this we KNOW we can win this and we ARE winning this, a few of ur big players are down already and more are going down, kinda sux that u have all those bonuses and u still dont stand a chance.

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Post by: opperdude on January 19, 2004, 05:07:48 PM

my rank went up since this war started... muhaha :)
and i saw no complaints about people dropping rank in the protected secretish forum part either, so i guess we're still having fun and are the winnaaaaaaaahs

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 19, 2004, 05:29:33 PM

ya and mine has been going up too. even though I am not officially in TGA yet I have still been attacking.

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Post by: diskreet on January 19, 2004, 06:28:50 PM

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yeah.. i must admit.. i'm hurting pretty bad. oh the pains... ohhh... ohhh... make it stop!

why doesn't your pathetic little alliance go create more fake accounts to 5x1 me with? apparently, from my logs, that's all you're capable of doing. way to go! :thumbs-up:

:orcdie:

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Post by: Dethpower on January 19, 2004, 08:19:13 PM

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Lmfao, this proves gain how sad TGA is u cant win so u accuse us from cheating, well i know we have a few people with very low SA, becuz they got sabbed and we also got a few members who started over again so they have low SA to, a few people have lives :o and dont sit behind KoC and raise there SA all the time( i know i cant believe it to), if u can show me a name that has gone offline after the attack then i ll believe u.

well if we are a pathetic little alliance and we beat the shit out of u then what does that makes u?? :hehe:

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Post by: opperdude on January 19, 2004, 08:33:17 PM

u really do believe it then? i'll send u my logs sir! (in half an hour or sumthing)
*edit: ok fish it i'll just post it here, i posted this a few days ago in the fortress, all these people are officers of achtmaal4, a well respected member of ur alliance. also note the repeating order the attacks appear

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15 hours ago negenmaal5 Attack defended 1 2 2 1,697,475 1,768,888 details
15 hours ago achtmaal2 675 Gold stolen 1 1 2 3,669,383 1,935,078 details
15 hours ago zevenmaal7 723 Gold stolen 1 0 2 5,285,424 1,739,892 details
15 hours ago viermaal3 Attack defended 1 2 2 1,551,906 1,814,969 details
15 hours ago driemaal3 Attack defended 1 3 4 1,840,125 1,880,672 details
15 hours ago zesmaal8 890 Gold stolen 1 0 2 4,849,353 1,859,151 details
15 hours ago vijfmaal7 790 Gold stolen 1 1 2 3,169,818 1,850,274 details
15 hours ago eenmaal1 469 Gold stolen 1 1 1 2,028,050 1,842,420 details
15 hours ago tweemaal9 Attack defended 1 1 1 1,388,012 1,766,297 details
15 hours ago vijfmaal7 932 Gold stolen 1 1 4 3,305,929 1,772,749 details
15 hours ago nulmaal0 1,081 Gold stolen 1 1 2 3,052,689 1,920,699 details
15 hours ago viermaal3 Attack defended 1 2 2 1,638,003 1,768,450 details
15 hours ago driemaal3 Attack defended 1 2 3 1,707,978 1,842,799 details
15 hours ago zesmaal8 936 Gold stolen 1 0 2 4,910,671 1,845,129 details
15 hours ago tweemaal9 Attack defended 1 3 3 1,461,228 1,773,717 details
15 hours ago nulmaal0 796 Gold stolen 1 0 1 2,958,192 1,738,181 details
15 hours ago eenmaal1 1,165 Gold stolen 1 1 2 2,087,209 1,689,377 details
15 hours ago negenmaal5 1,265 Gold stolen 1 2 4 1,796,636 1,747,682 details
15 hours ago achtmaal2 789 Gold stolen 1 1 3 3,615,885 1,902,538 details
15 hours ago zevenmaal7 1,019 Gold stolen 1 0 3 5,207,946 1,899,812 details
15 hours ago viermaal3 Attack defended 1 1 1 1,555,250 1,814,474 details
15 hours ago vijfmaal7 1,178 Gold stolen 1 1 3 3,187,480 1,879,223 details
15 hours ago zevenmaal7 1,018 Gold stolen 1 0 1 4,976,805 1,862,099 details
15 hours ago achtmaal2 1,357 Gold stolen 1 0 1 3,384,651 1,888,320 details
15 hours ago zesmaal8 1,087 Gold stolen 1 0 1 4,877,372 1,922,684 details
15 hours ago negenmaal5 Attack defended 1 2 2 1,628,140 1,858,606 details
15 hours ago driemaal3 Attack defended 1 3 3 1,813,234 1,974,502 details
15 hours ago eenmaal1 1,202 Gold stolen 1 1 1 2,173,678 1,803,205 details
15 hours ago tweemaal9 Attack defended 1 3 3 1,555,409 1,929,017 details
15 hours ago nulmaal0 1,498 Gold stolen 1 0 1 2,949,423 1,954,683 details
15 hours ago negenmaal5 Attack defended 1 2 4 1,748,065 1,758,757 details
15 hours ago achtmaal2 1,735 Gold stolen 1 1 4 3,662,209 1,930,973 details
15 hours ago zevenmaal7 1,255 Gold stolen 1 0 3 5,401,436 1,946,125 details
15 hours ago zesmaal8 1,765 Gold stolen 1 1 4 4,799,650 1,752,476 details
15 hours ago vijfmaal7 2,453 Gold stolen 1 0 2 3,263,442 1,856,591 details
15 hours ago driemaal3 Attack defended 1 3 5 1,754,125 1,859,621 details
15 hours ago viermaal3 Attack defended 1 1 2 1,588,043 1,810,432 details
15 hours ago tweemaal9 Attack defended 1 1 1 1,592,956 1,745,240 details
15 hours ago eenmaal1 1,940 Gold stolen 1 2 4 1,976,209 1,865,657 details
15 hours ago nulmaal0 2,256 Gold stolen 1 1 4 3,063,503 1,689,349 details
15 hours ago tweemaal9 Attack defended 1 1 2 1,458,103 1,827,534 details
15 hours ago eenmaal1 2,780 Gold stolen 1 1 2 2,051,393 1,913,441 details
15 hours ago driemaal3 Attack defended 1 3 4 1,749,659 1,858,730 details
15 hours ago viermaal3 Attack defended 1 2 3 1,645,881 1,854,806 details
15 hours ago zevenmaal7 2,706 Gold stolen 1 0 4 5,219,689 1,857,861 details
15 hours ago nulmaal0 3,239 Gold stolen 1 0 2 3,002,113 1,899,169 details
15 hours ago negenmaal5 Attack defended 1 1 2 1,735,157 1,805,727 details
15 hours ago achtmaal2 3,376 Gold stolen 1 1 3 3,766,963 1,839,290 details
15 hours ago vijfmaal7 2,286 Gold stolen 1 1 5 3,248,801 1,897,398 details
15 hours ago zesmaal8 3,341 Gold stolen 1 0 4 4,947,085 1,954,449 details

u wanted the logs u got the logs, i'm waiting for ur explanation on this one

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Post by: diskreet on January 19, 2004, 08:57:55 PM

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are you kidding? i've gotten legitimate attacks from about 6 of you. maybe you don't know your own members as well as you claim to because some of them are using alt-accounts. no doubt about that.

as far as beating me... i beg to differ.

604 attack turns used on me resulted in...

115,830 of my gold stolen.
1,457 of my men killed.
2,293 of your men killed.

bring it. :orcdie:

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Post by: Dethpower on January 19, 2004, 09:17:23 PM

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6 people u say, hmmm i remember much more attack logs posted on our forums of people attacking u so u are lieing, u guys really are sad, its always the same story: if u lose then accuse the opponent of using fakes and cheating.

I noticed something funny, one of ur members who hates orcs has a orc officier :o .

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Post by: opperdude on January 19, 2004, 09:25:41 PM

hmmm i didn't see a reply to my post... so still got u on that one i guess, talking about sad

and about the officer, there are no rules concerning officers, everybody can join up as an officer, and if sum1 has an orc officer, we're allowed to attack the officer as far as i know

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Post by: Rug on January 19, 2004, 09:35:36 PM

Dethpower, try to be polite around here. Name calling acheives nothing, and if you dont watch your tongue you will lose the ability to contribute to this discussion... this is out forum, our terms. So play nice.

Same goes for our members; dont rise to insults, its childish.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 19, 2004, 10:19:19 PM

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Can you show us your attacks logs? Now some accounts may seem fake because of low SA( I know mine is) but they are real, now I'm not speaking for everyone because someone may have used fake accounts but that does not mean that the Orc Army encouraged usage of them nor or we aware that fake accounts were used should they have been used.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 19, 2004, 10:23:23 PM

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u wanted the logs u got the logs, i'm waiting for ur explanation on this one

These accounts don't exactly look fake to me.... they all have farly okay SA's and they may or may not be sab immune(tell me if you have taken a look there) the only thing that looks somewhat strange is that they all attacked at around the same time which usually happens in a mass attack.

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Post by: opperdude on January 19, 2004, 10:34:25 PM

ehm and another 2 strange things:
- they attacked in the exact same order 2 or 3 times
- they are all officers of achtmaal4

and i'm not saying he made all the accounts by himself, just that it seems that there was only 1 person that logged onto the accounts

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 19, 2004, 10:40:34 PM

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Now the thing about the order is that may just be pure coincidence, I mean if it were the same order for each attack then i can see it easier to being fake accounts

There are a lot of people in the game with officers that have names that are similar to their commander's
Also they may all be his friends and he called em all for the mass attack.
Besides, those are a lot of accounts, it would be hell to use them all for attacking 1 person.

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Post by: diskreet on January 19, 2004, 10:48:06 PM

ok, i made up the number 6.. but the stats i posted are absolutely accurate.

here's the breakdown by attack damage and how many attacks used.
2 attackers with 50+ million (20 attack turns)
5 attackers with 10-50 million (30 attack turns)
10 attackers with 5-10 million (62 attack turns)

everyone else has less than 5 million attack damage and consisted of 492 attack turns (239 of those turns were less than 1 mil damage.)

81% of all your attacks were less than 1 mil damage. so are 4 out of 5 members of your alliance a newbies?

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Post by: Dethpower on January 19, 2004, 10:56:44 PM

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Lots of those attacks were from officiers of achtmaal4 and they have low Sa becuz they dont play the game everyday, now ur friend opper thinks they are fakes becuz the names have something to do with eachother, wich is totaly nonsense, cuz what opper says is that if i have my school friends join under me and all of there names starts with Deth.... then they all are fakes, now maybe my school friends dont like the game as much as i do, so they play it a few times a week, but then i ask them for help and since they are friends they help me on a mass attack, and since we live in the same country and we have msn we can attack at the same time, so in ur attack log u ll find a bunch of attacks of people lower then 1 mil Sa with the name Deth..... now does that makes them cheaters or fakes???

Unless u have real prove, hard prove that u can show me that they are fakes i wont believe u. Unless u have hard evidence please dont accuse our members of cheating cuz thats childish and sad.

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Post by: opperdude on January 19, 2004, 11:04:33 PM

ok may i congratulate him with his friends, who all have a lot of imagination... if u know the language all of the accounts are just 9x4, 8x6, 5x7, etc. only with the first 2 being words

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Post by: diskreet on January 19, 2004, 11:24:42 PM

and how exactly do you propose we get "hard evidence"? opper makes a completely valid case. my guess is you don't have all these accounts as members in your alliance.. am i right?

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Post by: tommyboy on January 19, 2004, 11:25:01 PM

what really makes y'all think that u can beat us i mean seriously i have seen no damage done to us really just wanna see your point of view on this

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Post by: diskreet on January 19, 2004, 11:39:12 PM

no damage? LOL

do you guys even track the stats at all? have you even read this thread? bah, i refuse to waste more words on you.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 20, 2004, 03:18:13 AM

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Now the newbie question here.... I find that insulting... my SA is was below 5 mil in the attacks.... mainly because I've been building up CA(have over 2000 lvl 10 spies) and hell couldn't find any good farms.... now I'm just a special case but their are a lot of newbies in this alliance which is the mark of a good alliance, its good to have new people because we help them get strong fast.

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Post by: Lord Lanair on January 20, 2004, 05:20:59 AM

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Now the newbie question here.... I find that insulting... my SA is was below 5 mil in the attacks.... mainly because I've been building up CA(have over 2000 lvl 10 spies)

Which is a foolish thing to do- since you didn't have farms, you took away your only other source of gold, with no benefits! LOL

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Post by: Biteme360 on January 20, 2004, 07:29:21 AM

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its good to have new people because we help them get strong fast.

and if you read the post, it's 81% of your aliance is below ONE MILLION attack, not 5 million,thats who disk was calling noobs, if you help them get strong so fast, than why are they so weak???

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Besides, those are a lot of accounts, it would be hell to use them all for attacking 1 person.

...thats the point of alt accounts, to use them to hammer one person into the ground without taking any damage yourself

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Lots of those attacks were from officiers of achtmaal4 and they have low Sa becuz they dont play the game everyday

and yet when called up for duty they all respond at the same time...yea....no cheating going on there

In conclusion, your arguements are full of holes and your reasoning is flawed, i could go into detail, but it's not worth it. Your head would probably just explode from reading the truth for the first time.

This has been another episode of You Are A Fuging Moron : Darkstone

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 20, 2004, 07:33:54 AM

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Which is a foolish thing to do- since you didn't have farms, you took away your only other source of gold, with no benefits! LOL

If you ask me, purposely doing anything that would make your rank plummet is foolish to me. What good is farming if you don't use that money to improve your rank? TGA also has a few members who have changed their strategy since this war has started, which has caused their rank to go down the drain. Don't tell me it's not important, otherwise smi256 would never have trained a bunch of spies and put soldiers back into defense.... it's obvious that rank IS important to him... and if Orc Army causes your members to change their accounts enough to make their rank plummet.... well, should we call those people foolish? You could argue that to go all SA allows them to farm more people... true, but wouldn't increasing their army size give them more TBG? I can consistently make more gold each day then biteme360 can farm. He can steal 1 mil every day... but I make 12mil each day.... can he CONSISTENLY farm 12 mil a day? I doubt it.... so now, who's the foolish one? I get more money, can farm bigger targets, and have a better rank then your smaller all SA players.

More Money, Bigger Farms, Better Rank.... now how am I loosing this war?

As for the phoney accounts on d1skreet... well, your own members have said we are weak right? What more would you expect from a weak army?

I have posts from all our members who attacked.... if your are interested, I can PM it to you, you can look at their name (on our boards), then find them on our clicklist... find out their KoC name.... and then look at their army size/rank to see if you still think they are fakes.

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Post by: Perdition on January 20, 2004, 07:36:16 AM

king your turning into rug.

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Post by: Biteme360 on January 20, 2004, 07:37:30 AM

people who can't grasp logic annoy me <_<

and evil, i don't have to get 12 million off you a day, just get what i can and let others get the rest

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Post by: Perdition on January 20, 2004, 07:39:59 AM

yes I understand that but this is kinda creepy.

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Post by: Rug on January 20, 2004, 08:55:47 AM

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I have posts from all our members who attacked.... if your are interested, I can PM it to you, you can look at their name (on our boards), then find them on our clicklist... find out their KoC name.... and then look at their army size/rank to see if you still think they are fakes.

If you do that, can I have full IP trace data for every one of those members? Just to be certian they're different, an' all.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 20, 2004, 12:29:03 PM

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O my god, darkstone, do you even read what you write, do you realy believe all that? Cause i have this beautiful gold bridge that goes over a desert that i'm selling realy cheap, one time offer, and it's just for you. :hehe: LOL

Snap out of it, you have people using multiple accounts, i don't give a fug, i have yet to see many attacks on me at all, even though i've recently lifted a million in one attack off of eviltracy, oh tommyboy, that part is my reason for why.

and if you read the post, it's 81% of your aliance is below ONE MILLION attack, not 5 million,thats who disk was calling noobs, if you help them get strong so fast, than why are they so weak???

...thats the point of alt accounts, to use them to hammer one person into the ground without taking any damage yourself

and yet when called up for duty they all respond at the same time...yea....no cheating going on there

In conclusion, your arguements are full of holes and your reasoning is flawed, i could go into detail, but it's not worth it. Your head would probably just explode from reading the truth for the first time.

This has been another episode of You Are A Fuging Moron : Darkstone

I consider getting sabotge immunity a kind of strength so that their weapons don't get destroyed, and that's what we do for new people.

I kind of misphrased that statement, I'm saying that it would be hell to access all of those different accounts to attack one person, its sounds like a bit to much work

meh, I dunno who his officers are so I can't ask them or anything of whether their his friends are relatives and the whatnot so i can't give you an answer there

Oh and there has never been an episode of You Are A Fuging Moron : Darkstone, so you can't say another, and if your gonna insult me at least use the whole name.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 20, 2004, 12:30:36 PM

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Which is a foolish thing to do- since you didn't have farms, you took away your only other source of gold, with no benefits! LOL

I lost my farms because my army size increased because of clicks.

sorry for double posting.

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Post by: Dethpower on January 20, 2004, 03:19:20 PM

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and yet when called up for duty they all respond at the same time...yea....no cheating going on there

His officiers are his friends wich means he meets with them in real live all he has to say is guys meet me at msn at 8 o clock or something and they will be there, so then wenn they meet he says attack and they attack, the guys with the fastest connection get through first and that explains why the orders are kinda same becuz everytime the guys with good connection get there attacks faster then the people with sucky connections.

Pure logic man, use that thing between ur ears!!! :angry:

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Post by: opperdude on January 20, 2004, 03:35:52 PM

ehm logic says otherwise, and i could believe that if the attacks weren't done on a wednesday around 23:00, and if he simply took the time to think of sum stupid names

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Post by: diskreet on January 20, 2004, 04:30:21 PM

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As for the phoney accounts on d1skreet... well, your own members have said we are weak right? What more would you expect from a weak army?

I have posts from all our members who attacked.... if your are interested, I can PM it to you, you can look at their name (on our boards), then find them on our clicklist... find out their KoC name.... and then look at their army size/rank to see if you still think they are fakes.

lets have it. you know the beauty of numbers is they don't lie... i keep answering your questions of "how are we losing this war?" with numbers. not you nor any of your members has addressed those numbers. let me give you an example of what i consider to be fake or alt accounts.... and you tell me if they're not.

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18 hours ago DarkSith01 Attack defended 1 0 0 41,242
18 hours ago DarkSith01 Attack defended 1 0 0 31,812
18 hours ago DarkSith01 Attack defended 1 0 0 44,660
18 hours ago DarkSith01 Attack defended 1 0 0 38,340
18 hours ago DarkSith01 Attack defended 1 0 0 51,200
18 hours ago cntryhicks Attack defended 1 2 0 28,075
18 hours ago cntryhicks Attack defended 1 1 0 30,416
18 hours ago cntryhicks Attack defended 1 2 0 31,767
18 hours ago cntryhicks Attack defended 1 1 0 29,095
18 hours ago cntryhicks Attack defended 1 2 0 37,571
18 hours ago dewthesith Attack defended 1 2 0 39,791
18 hours ago dewthesith Attack defended 1 2 0 27,455
18 hours ago dewthesith Attack defended 1 2 0 39,653
18 hours ago dewthesith Attack defended 1 1 0 30,683
18 hours ago dewthesith Attack defended 1 2 0 40,340
16 hours ago MysticSith Attack defended 1 1 0 395
16 hours ago MysticSith Attack defended 1 1 0 707
16 hours ago MysticSith Attack defended 1 1 0 1,177
16 hours ago MysticSith Attack defended 1 1 0 1,445
16 hours ago MysticSith Attack defended 1 2 0 1,900
11 hours ago snowsith Attack defended 1 2 0 3,401
11 hours ago snowsith Attack defended 1 2 0 3,606
11 hours ago snowsith Attack defended 1 2 0 3,247
11 hours ago snowsith Attack defended 1 1 0 4,278
11 hours ago snowsith Attack defended 1 2 0 3,442
18 hours ago cooj_revenger Attack defended 1 0 0 97
18 hours ago cooj_revenger Attack defended 1 0 0 101
18 hours ago cooj_revenger Attack defended 1 0 0 82
18 hours ago cooj_revenger Attack defended 1 0 0 91
18 hours ago cooj_revenger Attack defended 1 0 0 75

now, i admit... it's possible that some of these are not all fake accounts. but they are highly suspicious.

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 20, 2004, 06:44:26 PM

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now, i admit... it's possible that some of these are not all fake accounts. but they are highly suspicious.

I'm not 'positive' who cooj_revenger is... but I 'think' that is a member... the rest of them.... YEP, all members.... I recognize each of those names. Notice if you go up the command chain, they all go to Errtu? Some people deleted their accounts and started over, in preperation for Age 3.... I can say, even though they are new accounts, they are not fakes.... heck, I even recognized one of our council members somewhere in all that.

Haha... funny, you guys can't farm them.... get's annoying don't it? You can sab them.... but, they will sell and rebuy weapons before each mass attack.... so, be my guest. I will get you the names when I get home tonight.

Umm... as far as IP address... no, I won't provide those. Just because somebody posts attacks for more than one account, does not mean the accounts were fakes.... we had some members post people from their other alliances who joined in... quite a few from FUBAR... I also PM people my logs when I attack for them and they are in other alliances.

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Post by: Rug on January 20, 2004, 06:47:25 PM

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Umm... as far as IP address... no, I won't provide those. Just because somebody posts attacks for more than one account, does not mean the accounts were fakes.... we had some members post people from their other alliances who joined in... quite a few from FUBAR... I also PM people my logs when I attack for them and they are in other alliances.

I see, so you admit some people post logs from seperate forum accounts? Ouch, that sounds like an admission of guilt from where Im sitting...

:>.

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 20, 2004, 07:31:33 PM

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I see, so you admit some people post logs from seperate forum accounts? Ouch, that sounds like an admission of guilt from where Im sitting...

:>.

I don't know how you come to that conclusion. Let me give you an example.... I helped shylore in a mass attack. I then copied/pasted my logs and messaged her. My guess is she posted them something similiar to this...

EvilTracy
.... and then my 5 attacks here....

How is that in any way whatsoever admitting to guilt? When members of FUBAR post in their forums the attacks and some of our members are in both alliances and they copy/paste the name and the attack logs (so that we can all see how many other people are helping us) that is not in any way cheating. I do the same thing when I am in multiple alliances.... I copy/paste other members logs into my other alliance forums with a note something like "This was from some of Orc Army members"... followed by their attacks.

If you're talking like we have multiple people in our alliance from the same IP address.... why, yes, we do.... some of our members are coworkers.... so it is not unusual to see 3 members all with the same IP address (not to mention their IP addresses from home also). I have spoken with several of these members on AIM on seperate occasions.... and I really doubt it's all the same person using several accounts and posting as several members... using an IP from work for multiple accounts and then another IP which is unique for each account (which is probably their HOME IP address)

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Post by: Rug on January 20, 2004, 07:45:40 PM

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Just because somebody posts attacks for more than one account, does not mean the accounts were fakes

I was more referring to that, though thanks for typing all that...

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so it is not unusual to see 3 members all with the same IP address

Of... course... it... isnt...

Coworkers... mhm... ok... You'll forgive me if im skeptical, because those do look like alt accounts, especially the ones opper posted. Any group of friends who make their names the times tables need therapy.

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 20, 2004, 08:06:41 PM

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I was more referring to that, though thanks for typing all that...

Of... course... it... isnt...

Coworkers... mhm... ok... You'll forgive me if im skeptical, because those do look like alt accounts, especially the ones opper posted. Any group of friends who make their names the times tables need therapy.

I don't know about the ones that opper posted... only the one account is part of our alliance... as far as coworkers, PM vagride (find out his KoC name on our clickmaster)... and he can tell you all his coworkers... there are many of them... and most of them have new accounts.

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Post by: SS on January 20, 2004, 08:25:38 PM

Does his company know that he's wasting company resources on playing games? :P

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Post by: Perdition on January 20, 2004, 09:14:04 PM

does it matter. If I had a job and if that job had computer access I would waist their recoureces on playing games too(maybe not KOC but deffinatly games)

o and I've thrown spelling correctly out the window. too much time and thought goes into that and my thaoughts are better used elsewhere. :P

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 20, 2004, 09:21:35 PM

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Does his company know that he's wasting company resources on playing games? :P

Man, it seems to me that if you guys can't win in game, you try to screw us over out of game.... LadyofLight 'turned me in'? Why... to try to get the admins to delete my account or something? I'm sure they have much more to worry about.... then me calling a person 'babe' and telling them I would send naked pics of my Guatamalan gardner... I think they can tell a joke when they see it... and now you're mentioning my work..... man, just trying to drag people down any way you can... pretty low if you ask me.

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Post by: Saladin on January 20, 2004, 09:26:26 PM

.........what? seems to me that SS was just joking around. How would he screw you over with your work when we have no idea who you are. it also seems to me you need to learn how to take a joke

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Post by: SS on January 20, 2004, 09:27:12 PM

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I think they can tell a joke when they see it

Though evidently you can't. Even when there's a BIG BLOODY EMOTICON WITH IT'S TONGUE HANGING OUT STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO IT! Crikey!

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Post by: Rug on January 20, 2004, 09:57:20 PM

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LadyofLight 'turned me in'? Why... to try to get the admins to delete my account or something? I'm sure they have much more to worry about.... then me calling a person 'babe' and telling them I would send naked pics of my Guatamalan gardner...

I'm going to chime in again here... personally, that was entirely inappropriate, and I for one hold you in a lot lower regard for referring to her in that way, when she was obviously bothered by it.

I know a few forums where even the slightest hint of such a thing would get you majorly banned:

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Some members of the forum have brought up a few cases of sexual harassment going on in the Forum, IRC, and on AIM. But because there is a lack of evidence nothing can be done about this, except for a friendly reminder on my part (and from the rest of the GM-Admin staff) to all members. Sexual Harassment is not tolerated, if you are caught (I.e. the person harassed saves the conversation, and presents it to GMs and Administration). You will be banned. Simple enough.

A note to people who are “being harassed”: If someone harasses you from the forum, you need to save the conversation, and present it to us. We cannot do much about it unless some evidence is presented . . . I understand that you might be scared too, but it’s your well being, so take the opportunity to do something about it, and take the opportunity to do it right away before the person does the same to a different individual.

I subscribe to this train of thought, believing that your behaviour was entirely inapropriate... even if it was a joke.

Anyway, enough on that. Back to war matters please.

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 20, 2004, 10:10:12 PM

Yeah man you whine a little to much its just a game not your whole life :rolleyes: you shouldnt talk like that to anyone especially bout hopefully :P a lady thats just rude

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Post by: diskreet on January 21, 2004, 12:04:59 AM

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*ahem*

blah blah blah...

still no answer.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 21, 2004, 03:55:00 AM

numbers piss me off.... there's too many of em.

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Post by: underruler on January 21, 2004, 05:11:49 AM

Have you tried elementary math? O_o

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Post by: opperdude on January 21, 2004, 02:04:10 PM

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BLOODY

ghegheghe, SS u said bloody :paranoid: :)

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Post by: SS on January 21, 2004, 07:10:44 PM

:huh:

Uh, I did, yes.

:ph34r:

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 21, 2004, 08:39:47 PM

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Have you tried elementary math? O_o

I hate geometry, I hate Algebra, I hate math in general, I hate numbers, for numbers piss me off becuase their are too many of them, so says my crappy haiku that's not really a haiku.

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 21, 2004, 09:37:29 PM

I hate math also.
I also hate orcs like you.

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Post by: Rug on January 21, 2004, 09:40:24 PM

Dude, this is simple addition :P.

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Post by: opperdude on January 21, 2004, 10:01:00 PM

if u dislike numbers and all... why do you put it in your name and asked not to be called darkstone but with the numbers? :huh:

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Post by: diskreet on January 21, 2004, 10:24:17 PM

seeing as how there is NO answer to my numbers. i restate this simple fact: We are winning this war.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 21, 2004, 10:28:19 PM

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if u dislike numbers and all... why do you put it in your name and asked not to be called darkstone but with the numbers? :huh:

becuase when I signed up on KoC my trademark name was taken so I added numbers in... and here I put the +1 cause I never got an e-mail back for the other name i started here.

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Post by: SS on January 22, 2004, 05:44:02 PM

You waited only six minutes for the first e-mail (which probably went into your junk mail folder because Hotmail are silly) before signing up again. :P

Anyhow, I'm in a generous mood, so if you want I can cancel your first account and set your current one to darkstone331, if you'd prefer?

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 22, 2004, 06:28:05 PM

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seeing as how there is NO answer to my numbers. i restate this simple fact: We are winning this war.

Seeing as there is NO agreement to PM me back in game when your money is being spent... I restate this simple fact .... never mind... I don't need to say it again.

Here is some stuff for your numbers...

cntryhicks -cntryhicks (Date Registered: 12/29/03 at 20:09:52 )
dewthesith -masoncrew (Date Registered: 12/25/03 at 14:30:27)
MysticSith -MysticOrc (Date Registered: Day 1)
snowsith -snowstyles (Date Registered: 12/25/03 at 14:20:44)
cooj_revenger
DarkSith01

Check our clickmaster... the names on the left are their KoC names... and to the right is their alliance names.
The last two... not sure who they are... but, we have 122 registered members... and only 65 on the clicklist. Some people never added their links due to lazyness and not wanting to click. Hell, even Darkstone can tell ya about that.... he slacked in clicking most the age and was taken off the list.

So, that was what you wanted right? Those are the names you cherry picked out as being fake accounts right? I can 100% verify 4 of the 6. You wanna know who they are in our alliance (if they are not a friend of an alliance member)... PM them in game. I've done enough research for you now.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 22, 2004, 07:52:57 PM

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nah, i've spammed too much with this one, I feel an attachment to this account.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 22, 2004, 07:54:36 PM

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Hell, even Darkstone can tell ya about that.... he slacked in clicking most the age and was taken off the list.

It was really more half of the Age I slacked and when you took me off the list I was grounded..... now I'm just slacking though.

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 22, 2004, 09:29:12 PM

Your lazy then. Not even helping out your alliance. Your members dont even help eachother and that is why TGA is going to win the war.

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Post by: opperdude on January 22, 2004, 09:47:02 PM

yeah we all take the time to click *cough*

*hides*

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Post by: Dethpower on January 22, 2004, 10:07:38 PM

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Your lazy then. Not even helping out your alliance. Your members dont even help eachother and that is why TGA is going to win the war.

Hahaha, u guys are funny, ur alliance is unorganized, hasnt got much active players:

U started this war to get people active again, thats what u guys sayd urself, so ur alliance was/is dieing.

U guys havent done 1 sucesfull mass attack or organized any succecfull thing.

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Post by: opperdude on January 22, 2004, 10:10:21 PM

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may i correct u, we started it to KEEP people active :)

and organization is boring, we're fighting this guerilla style, much more effective, plans are there to fail, if you have no plan, ur plan can't fail

muhaha wisdom is on our side

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Post by: Biteme360 on January 23, 2004, 12:04:53 AM

Dethpower dude, i've taken millions of of eviltracy, unknown millions, actually, i'm gona go total it all up, brb............

TEN MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-SEVEN THOUSAND that is the total gold that i've gotten off of eviltracy so far as of this post since the war began, total losses....approximately 1.5 million, only 700K of which i am sure was taken by someone in your alliance thats a prity nice net gain, and that is not all that i've gotten out of this war, just all that i've gotten off of eviltracy

i don't need to do no stinking mass attacks

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 12:08:13 AM

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wisdom? what wisdom i have seen none yet. i havent heard of any of our members being hurt much buy you except a few repairs but only like 200k worth which is easy enough even for the smaller guys i have seen no ranks dropping from our members only getting better....so i quess your helping us...thx we really apprieciate it

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 12:16:54 AM

Tommy, read Biteme's post, immediately above your one. A 9,300,000 loss is helping EvilTracy, is it?

All you silly Orcs keep coming on here and bragging, yet when anyone produces cold hard facts, you just seem to ignore them or dismiss them. I wonder why that is?

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Post by: diskreet on January 23, 2004, 12:20:07 AM

you know if you had someone to mass attack, maybe we would. none of you have a high enough rank to merit a mass attack. sometimes the best course of action is no action at all.

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 23, 2004, 12:24:49 AM

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Holy Moly!... that's 19 hours worth of gold!!!... has it been that much? Man, I gotta spend more often. No wonder why your SA keeps going up each time you attack me.

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 12:27:16 AM

1st to SS 9 mil big deal evil gots plenty of attacks to get it back and high enough sa to get it back fast so no prob there

now the next one

you know were orcs we have sa we dont want da alot of our members could buy da no prob but no one wants it we dont care if you cant mass attack better for us

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 23, 2004, 12:46:19 AM

well then I guess you will all make good farms. If you have no DA and evil tracy gets lots of Gold, all we have to do is attack and get gold. Since you have no DA all we have to do is attack and get your money. When we get your money we spend it to increase our DA, SA, and CA thus making us higher ranked.
Thanks for the help Orc Army.

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Post by: Saladin on January 23, 2004, 12:48:06 AM

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so now you're doing the old hackneyed "i don't care" when someone does something to you that in reality you guys care about

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 23, 2004, 12:54:08 AM

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so now you're doing the old hackneyed "i don't care" when someone does something to you that in reality you guys care about

No, I think he's serious.... I really don't think tommyboy cares about my gold LOL . Except for the times I lower my defenses to let em farm me.... :P

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 23, 2004, 12:56:49 AM

So even your members farm you? :o

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 12:58:23 AM

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So even your members farm you? :o

sometimes he does to keep others from getting it and helping members at the same time

makes ense doesnt it

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Post by: Saladin on January 23, 2004, 12:59:34 AM

sort of but it does cause repairs obviously

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 01:11:14 AM

o yes like your doesnt and anyway we only use 1 15 attack so he has tons of repairs ;) he can just repair that easily so itz no biggy

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 23, 2004, 01:14:04 AM

I thought you said all of you orcs have no defence

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 01:16:20 AM

no defense i doubt most have a little but nuthing like yours why whats the point use it on attack and just steal it from the people who have defense like you itz much more fun that way

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 23, 2004, 01:19:42 AM

Well if we were all in attack our ranks would be low.

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 01:26:11 AM

ya but if you save up attacks when you know the age will end is when you come up not at the beginning when someone has the chance to take you out

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 23, 2004, 01:27:58 AM

I did not understand that. Did you learn where to put capitals, commas and periods in your sentences yet?

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 01:30:00 AM

i did but i dont want to not my fualt you cant adabt to the times this is the way i write if you dont like it to dam bad

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Post by: Biteme360 on January 23, 2004, 01:31:41 AM

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Holy Moly!... that's 19 hours worth of gold!!!... has it been that much? Man, I gotta spend more often. No wonder why your SA keeps going up each time you attack me.

evil, you don't make that much man, you got about 6K troops, thats 300K per turn gold, 10887/300 = 36.29 turns worth of gold that i've gotten from you, not 19 as you claim

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Post by: tommyboy on January 23, 2004, 01:33:10 AM

eh, school boy who cares

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Post by: Biteme360 on January 23, 2004, 01:35:59 AM

just keeping the record straight for those of you out there that haven't been able to master the subtleties of division :withstupid:

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Post by: Thamior on January 23, 2004, 01:46:58 AM

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evil, you don't make that much man, you got about 6K troops, thats 300K per turn gold, 10887/300 = 36.29 turns worth of gold that i've gotten from you, not 19 as you claim

Hate to burst your bubble Biter but he said 19 HOURS, not 19 turns. You calculated 36.29 turns, which is actually less than 19 hours. Therefore, EvilTracy was actually being modest in his estimations. Wait, which side am I on again? Oh...I don't really have a side, nevermind. :unsure:

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 23, 2004, 01:49:16 AM

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You stole my thunder.... I wanted to throw that back at him! :angry:

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Post by: Thamior on January 23, 2004, 01:57:18 AM

Oh, my bad. I quick like ninja! :ph34r:

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:08:49 AM

I have script like Ninja

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:12:50 AM

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Your lazy then. Not even helping out your alliance. Your members dont even help eachother and that is why TGA is going to win the war.

Yes I am lazy, extremely lazy. And I help my alliance in other ways. Clicks aren't everything and besides I if i did click I would have been hit when you hit the first couple people at the top of our clickmaster. You see that kids, laziness helps.

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Post by: Perdition on January 23, 2004, 03:14:21 AM

stone boy quit double posting it gets annoying.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:16:31 AM

I hate editing when my posts are going to 2 differnent people.

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Post by: Perdition on January 23, 2004, 03:18:56 AM

what a great reason :rolleyes: *smacks darkstone* come up with soemthing better than that. I atleast have my stupidity to blaim when I double post :P

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Post by: Saladin on January 23, 2004, 03:23:00 AM

speaking of that you spelled blame wrong Fire :P

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Post by: Perdition on January 23, 2004, 03:26:21 AM

that just proves my point even more. eventhough i said I was giving up on spelling correctly

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Post by: Saladin on January 23, 2004, 03:29:06 AM

and you didn't put a space between even and though

TWO MORE POSTS TILL TERCERO!!!

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Post by: Perdition on January 23, 2004, 03:31:49 AM

are you going to pick out all my flaws? SS will run out of bandwidth if you do.

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 03:32:59 AM

LOL I think I can get more if it's dedicated to pedantry. ;)

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:34:29 AM

meh, but in ninja

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Post by: Perdition on January 23, 2004, 03:35:19 AM

if your going to do white font dont make it obvious

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:37:23 AM

I just learned how to do it today
meh I feel meh and how is it obvious

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 03:39:19 AM

yeah,litiseemsksillyeto makethiddenhtextisosobvious. ;)

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Post by: Saladin on January 23, 2004, 03:39:33 AM

i can tell that there're words there

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Post by: Perdition on January 23, 2004, 03:42:03 AM

the way the spacing is it just looks so obvious.
more subtle. but not subtle enough
get a sig and that will help a bit. but
when you see an all white post you know there is white font there

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:44:06 AM

I'm not doing it to hide it.... its just fun doing it.

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 03:44:13 AM

Anyway, time to stop spamming this thread, before you get ~~underwater~~ ~~undermember~~ underruler, that's it. Uh, yeah, stop spamming or she'll get angry with you. :P

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:44:43 AM

What was the topic of this thread again?

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 03:47:04 AM

The war. :orcdie:

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:48:15 AM

Their are many wars, WWI, WW2, The war of 1812 that was fought in 1813, can you be more specific and did orcs fight in the revolutionary war.

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 03:52:13 AM

Well, the war between TGA and orcs, really. But I can discuss any war in the history of mankind, if you so desire.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 23, 2004, 03:53:27 AM

Tell me about the war between the hero darkstone against the vile hippies. I need a good bedtime story.All the fighting and the burning and the smiting, just a good story a war story.

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 03:56:00 AM

I could do that, or I could note that underruler is online and so the safest place for me to be would be offline, in bed, reading Crossroads of Twilight, whilst you all get persecuted for disobeying her. :P

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Post by: Perdition on January 23, 2004, 04:03:40 AM

aww SS dont go to bed. you can always edit her posts if she harrasses you

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Post by: underruler on January 23, 2004, 04:18:51 AM

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Oh, my bad. I quick like ninja! :ph34r:

Tham I'm very offended at how you worded that post. Bleh.

Anyway...I would never harass SS. He better be glad that he doesn't live here; he'd know what I look like when I'm postal which is only when I'm pissed at ... everything...? Bah...forget it.

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 04:53:21 PM

See what I mean? Anyone who talks about being postal with such calmness and regularity is clearly someone to stay clear of. ;)

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Post by: Rug on January 23, 2004, 05:34:32 PM

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But I can discuss any war in the history of mankind, if you so desire.

Sengoku Jidai: Was Tokugawa Ieyasu a hero or not?

Discuss.

:P.

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 06:14:09 PM

Uh. :mellow: Wouldn't you rather something more, um, not-japanese? :paranoid:

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Post by: Rug on January 23, 2004, 06:22:48 PM

Oh okay then... Did the start of the Tyrannical prime ministership of Dong Zhuo call an end to the Han Dynasty, 184ad, or the Ascension of Cao Pi to the Throne of Heaven ~25 years later?

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Post by: SS on January 23, 2004, 06:40:17 PM

Hows about anything that isn't further east than India? :P

Except for that really awkward one you've just thought up. :hmmm:

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Post by: Thamior on January 23, 2004, 06:59:08 PM

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Tham I'm very offended at how you worded that post. Bleh.

I'm offended by people who are offended too easily. :P

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Post by: Rug on January 23, 2004, 07:05:53 PM

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Hows about anything that isn't further east than India? :P

Except for that really awkward one you've just thought up. :hmmm:

It wasnt *that* awkward :P.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 01:43:01 AM

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Oh okay then... Did the start of the Tyrannical prime ministership of Dong Zhuo call an end to the Han Dynasty, 184ad, or the Ascension of Cao Pi to the Throne of Heaven ~25 years later?

It involved corrupt daimao and samurai. *nods in agreement with his extreme ignorance* Also what was The War of Roses?

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Post by: Perdition on January 24, 2004, 01:44:22 AM

was a book and later a movie about a very nasty devorice. and I'm pretty sure its fictional.

how the hell did I know that? :huh:

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Post by: SS on January 24, 2004, 02:14:55 AM

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Also what was The War of Roses?

Oooh, I can do that one! :D

Lasted over thirty years, starting in 1455 on the 22nd of May. The first battle was in a city not very far from me; St Albans, most of the battle taking place within the main high-street and marketplace areas. Richard Duke of York was leading three thousand men to London, with the intent of seizing control of the country. King Henry VI opposed him with two thousand Lancastrians. Only a hundred casualties in total, three quarters on Henry's side, before the king was captured. Richard then continued on to London and had himself proclaimed Constable of England, until Edward Duke of York could be acclaimed king on the 4th of March. Various battles & stuff happened in between, but on the 22nd of August 1485, a battle two miles south of Bosworth, Leicestershire, resulted in defeat of the Yorkists, despite them having an extra two thousand men (12k Yorkists, against 10k Lancastrians). The Yorkist king, Richard III was killed. Henry Tudor, Earl of Richmond, took the throne and was crowned Henry VII. By marrying the only surviving child of Edward IV, Elizabeth, he ended the War of the Roses.

The start of the Tudor dynasty wasn't fictional Anna. :P

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Post by: Perdition on January 24, 2004, 02:18:30 AM

mine exsists. I like mine better. fiction is so much better than truth

war of the roses (http://www.suavesports.com/mrpinkk/misc/)

weehee. yeah I saw your thingy too. people should be more specific on which one they are referring to :rolleyes:

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 02:46:01 AM

I knew it was in England but it was refered to in my history book but there was no info in it so I was just wonderin.

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 24, 2004, 03:07:12 AM

Whoa cool wars ive studied this until 5th grade

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 03:10:51 AM

Oh good question here. Why was the War of 1812 fought in 1813 and 1814 :P

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Post by: SS on January 24, 2004, 03:17:17 AM

Simple, 'twas because whoever named it was an idiot. :P

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 03:19:01 AM

Who names these wars anyway? I can never figure that out, do historians name them or what?

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 24, 2004, 03:19:28 AM

No....my friend no....see back in those days they still counted on there fingers so once they got to like 500 or so the lost count thusly when the war of 1812 broke out all the smart people died so they all lost count.....DUH! LOL

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Post by: SS on January 24, 2004, 03:22:10 AM

Dunno who names them. If the people involved don't give them a name, then I guess the historians do, which generally means the victorious side, I guess.

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 24, 2004, 03:24:51 AM

Thats true because whoever wins has bragging rights also it sometimes has to due with whos fighting, where it is faught and who won

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 03:26:18 AM

This is one of those things that you don't know and know one really knows the right answers....whoa cosmic.

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 24, 2004, 03:29:11 AM

.....thats war for ya....there is never a "good" side of war

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 03:30:15 AM

no, the lootings fun.

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Post by: underruler on January 24, 2004, 03:33:59 AM

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.....thats war for ya....there is never a "good" side of war

Not unless you like stabbing...depends on which side of the sword you are on I guess.

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 24, 2004, 03:34:06 AM

true true so true

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Post by: underruler on January 24, 2004, 03:36:52 AM

TGA is on the right side. :P

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 03:39:43 AM

of a double edged sword.

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Post by: underruler on January 24, 2004, 03:41:17 AM

I'm in the middle then. :P

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 24, 2004, 03:43:05 AM

Im at the Handle stabbing a orc in the head :hehe:

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Post by: Biteme360 on January 24, 2004, 03:44:59 AM

i'm laughing at all yall as i get a gun

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Post by: underruler on January 24, 2004, 03:45:51 AM

Dude, they didn't have guns.

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Post by: SS on January 24, 2004, 03:48:45 AM

Some of the Lancastrians did in the War of the Roses.

Still, who needs guns when you got balefire? :asha'man/r::balefire/r:

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 24, 2004, 03:50:40 AM

Carefull of crossfires! :stake:

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 24, 2004, 03:59:32 AM

just give me a flamethrower (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb032.gif) or a light saber (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb029.gif)

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 12:22:45 AM

you all think if you have weapons you win....well i have the power of the People :withstupid: :withstupid: :withstupid: :withstupid:

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Post by: underruler on January 25, 2004, 12:31:21 AM

Would you prefer hand to hand combat? I know I would. :P

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 25, 2004, 12:35:46 AM

ya. so would I. I study martial arts :ph34r:

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 12:37:45 AM

nah... call in the airforce and just carpet bomb everybody :sheep:

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 12:39:30 AM

carpet spamming is funner than carpet bombing

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 12:43:27 AM

....A.D.D. kicking in.......hel.....p
Yeah like the other da......Fighting it......
Are you rating me as a carpet spammer!! .....thats not nice.......

Capret bombing espially if u have naplamn air strikes LOL

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Post by: underruler on January 25, 2004, 12:44:49 AM

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ya. so would I. I study martial arts :ph34r:

Study or do? :P

ANYWAY...it feels so hostile.

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 12:44:58 AM

nah you havent carpet spammed yet

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 12:49:12 AM

*scampers under a bed and goes to sleep* but then is awoken when the mole people begin thier invasion and i learn that i must go to the front lines

Well im off!

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 12:55:06 AM

Damn those mole people :angry:

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 04:29:53 AM

mole people amuse me because I am tall.... carpet spamming amuses me.... spamming in general is fun.

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Post by: underruler on January 25, 2004, 04:34:43 AM

Carpet spamming...? OH...how tall are you?

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 04:50:23 AM

nearly 6 feet.

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Post by: Lord Lanair on January 25, 2004, 05:42:55 AM

Tall? LOL LOL LOL

Spamming is fun, though. :D

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Post by: underruler on January 25, 2004, 06:38:11 AM

Lanair...That's tall to me. :P

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 06:50:03 AM

meh.

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Post by: SS on January 25, 2004, 02:30:11 PM

I'm ~6ft and my family always calls me tall, but in reality I'm just average height.

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Post by: Rug on January 25, 2004, 03:22:44 PM

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I'm ~6ft and my family always calls me tall, but in reality I'm just average height.

Rinse; repeat....

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 03:56:43 PM

It would suck just to keep on repeating... It would suck just to keep on repeating... It would suck just to keep on repeating... It would suck just to keep on repeating... It would suck just to keep on repeating... It would suck just to keep on repeating... It would suck just to keep on repeating... It would suck just to keep on repeating...

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Post by: Rug on January 25, 2004, 03:59:23 PM

It would suck to set you to -1000 posts for repeated spam... no wait, I wold enjoy that.

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 06:39:06 PM

They are much taller then six feet trust me ive seen one and i barely mad it out!

-1000 ouch LOL

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 06:48:26 PM

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It would suck to set you to -1000 posts for repeated spam... no wait, I wold enjoy that.

no you wouldn't enjoy it... sure you wold enjoy it when you did it but the guilt of doing it will eat you alive.

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 06:54:05 PM

rug doesnt experience guilt.

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Post by: Rug on January 25, 2004, 07:07:37 PM

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rug doesnt experience guilt.

This is true.

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 07:17:34 PM

oh well I'm boned then.

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 07:24:07 PM

by who?

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 07:31:09 PM

the world.

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 07:32:16 PM

the world has a penis?

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 07:34:50 PM

I think we have we both have different defintions of boned.

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 07:36:30 PM

yes I was wondering when that was going to come up :P

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 07:42:09 PM

I am using the Bender from Futurama, version of the word boned.

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 07:46:36 PM

could have given me the deffinition and made it easy on me

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 07:48:05 PM

has anybody heard any news on age 3?

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 07:49:31 PM

I got no news about Age 3 and if I made it easy for you, what would I do then?

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 07:53:41 PM

make it easy but put it in code jumble all the letters and change them example "t is really a f" gotta keep um guessing remember Trees are always listenening and they are the perfect spy

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 07:56:07 PM

no wait I got news about Age 3... they haven't started the beta testing yet
and what has a whale ever done for you?

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 08:00:58 PM

those evil mammalized freaks ate my perents a year ago!

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Post by: darkstone331+1 on January 25, 2004, 08:03:29 PM

Nuke the whales.... you gotta nuke somethin.

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 08:05:42 PM

No....My Orcish friend nuke France they are allies with the Whales...

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Post by: opperdude on January 25, 2004, 08:11:11 PM

:o ehm... my armory page changed [/random post]

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 08:15:28 PM

no your supposed to shave the whales

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Post by: G1lbert on January 25, 2004, 08:25:19 PM

wasn't it: shave the queen?

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 25, 2004, 08:28:47 PM

no its shave the bean

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Post by: Perdition on January 25, 2004, 09:11:36 PM

killum you've been registered since may and you only have 100 posts? *starts sobbing into hands*

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Post by: underruler on January 26, 2004, 12:07:36 AM

O_O...My armory page changed too...it's ... different. *gasp* They should give us warning on this stuff so I don't have heart attacks.

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Post by: Perdition on January 26, 2004, 12:09:43 AM

I think the error messages were warnings.

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Post by: underruler on January 26, 2004, 12:14:29 AM

What error messages?

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Post by: Perdition on January 26, 2004, 12:20:07 AM

the error messages koc has been giving in the last few days.

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Post by: underruler on January 26, 2004, 12:48:13 AM

They should make those more clear.

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Post by: Lord Lanair on January 26, 2004, 04:09:05 AM

Well, at least we didn't lose anything in our armories! LOL

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 26, 2004, 06:26:47 AM

could we get a body count now? I'm curious after the attacks on d1skreet... what the counts are... also, I don't think all our gold stolen is getting reported.... for some reason, I am thinking i'm doing better on all accounts... gold stolen, soldiers killed, and maintaining rank.

1 minute ago Raitei 762,694 Gold stolen 15 13 5 13,149,843 153,346,822 details
2 minutes ago d1skreet 341,038 Gold stolen 15 0 0 573,498 153,630,255 details
3 hours ago Raitei 644,603 Gold stolen 15 14 6 14,266,027 154,245,997 details
4 hours ago Raitei 1,141,333 Gold stolen 15 20 8 13,786,050 151,757,201 details
4 hours ago d1skreet 300,325 Gold stolen 15 37 14 24,047,100 153,007,676 details
12 hours ago d1skreet 521,795 Gold stolen 15 24 10 25,179,588 152,366,602 details
23 hours ago d1skreet 383,402 Gold stolen 15 16 6 28,959,048 152,131,492 details
1 day ago d1skreet 5,323 Gold stolen 1 61 32 53,714,016 152,517,326 details
1 day ago d1skreet 5,334 Gold stolen 1 42 24 68,274,189 152,106,997 details
1 day ago d1skreet 8,071 Gold stolen 1 61 36 68,788,800 151,960,530 details
1 day ago Raitei 1,379,047 Gold stolen 15 6 3 13,549,953 156,201,183 details
2 days ago d1skreet 133,589 Gold stolen 15 74 46 87,677,445 156,308,681 details
2 days ago d1skreet 207,974 Gold stolen 15 47 29 96,545,652 154,590,243 details
2 days ago d1skreet 735,924 Gold stolen 15 88 67 118,171,218 154,240,323 details
2 days ago d1skreet 258,750 Gold stolen 15 71 58 129,344,202 156,186,663 details
2 days ago d1skreet 12,534 Gold stolen 1 42 34 128,875,998 156,380,748 details
3 days ago Raitei 724,243 Gold stolen 15 15 7 13,467,720 156,380,212 details

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10 hours ago LadyofLight 115,009 Gold stolen 15 2 2 27,406,080 5,660,160 details
20 hours ago Am2g4u Attack defended 1 3 1 3,249,434 6,036,480 details
1 day ago The_Red_Baron Attack defended 3 2 1 2,470,170 5,952,000 details
1 day ago LadyofLight 34 Gold stolen 1 2 2 27,343,581 7,388,160 details
1 day ago LadyofLight 8,795 Gold stolen 1 4 4 27,200,121 7,749,120 details
1 day ago NS33 2,588 Gold stolen 1 2 2 207,353,223 8,240,640 details
2 days ago Darklord_Yann (not active) Attack defended 1 0 0 267,810 6,113,280 details
2 days ago Biter Attack defended 15 0 0 4,339 5,981,040 details
2 days ago Biter Attack defended 15 0 0 4,489 5,960,367 details
2 days ago Biter Attack defended 15 0 0 3,921 6,154,548 details
2 days ago Biter Attack defended 15 0 0 5,673 6,110,892 details
2 days ago Biter Attack defended 15 0 0 5,190 6,174,720 details
3 days ago Whiteaker 3,229,017 Gold stolen 15 3 1 50,122,488 5,391,360 details
3 days ago Beldock 7,109 Gold stolen 1 5 2 6,336,332 5,158,944 details
3 days ago Beldock 504,253 Gold stolen 15 2 1 6,367,845 5,445,120 details
3 days ago biteme360 626,750 Gold stolen 15 2 2 44,041,317 5,406,720 details
3 days ago biteme360 656,724 Gold stolen 15 1 1 44,008,719 5,452,800 details
4 days ago biteme360 394,703 Gold stolen 15 2 2 43,913,808 5,683,200 details
4 days ago opperdude Attack defended 1 3 1 3,655,401 5,563,650 details
4 days ago opperdude Attack defended 1 2 1 3,696,903 5,578,998 details
4 days ago opperdude Attack defended 1 2 1 3,744,723 5,578,998 details
4 days ago opperdude Attack defended 1 4 2 3,701,340 5,466,024 details
4 days ago opperdude Attack defended 15 4 2 3,768,891 5,637,120 details
4 days ago muffin__21 Attack defended 1 1 0 4,558,991 5,629,440 details
4 days ago biteme360 442,554 Gold stolen 15 1 1 43,981,356 5,491,200 details
4 days ago moosemonkey Attack defended 1 0 0 465 5,376,000 details
4 days ago Matt_the_shark Attack defended 15 2 1 5,301,298 5,565,825 details
4 days ago Matt_the_shark Attack defended 15 4 2 5,321,519 5,468,160 details
4 days ago LadyofLight 10,734 Gold stolen 1 3 2 26,204,700 5,719,365 details
4 days ago LadyofLight 208,119 Gold stolen 15 2 2 25,937,748 5,706,240 details

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Post by: opperdude on January 26, 2004, 08:41:59 AM

pfff... ur begging to get 5x1'ed again? i might check in later ;)

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 26, 2004, 02:51:54 PM

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pfff... ur begging to get 5x1'ed again? i might check in later ;)

Why would you do that? Unless you can beat my defense now.... I thought the strategy was to kill my soldiers and take gold? How would 5x1's do that if you're not beating me?

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Post by: opperdude on January 26, 2004, 03:17:15 PM

i gots no idea, but if it'd help u out... i'm willing to do something for a fellow human being

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Post by: diskreet on January 26, 2004, 05:48:04 PM

eviltracy, i'd love to give you some numbers, but 85 pages of logs is a bit much. As far as kills/gold stolen, your attacks are the exception, not the rule when it comes to the kill ratio.

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Post by: ns33 on January 26, 2004, 06:30:15 PM

hey look, im in there!! :P

you know tracy, even though im not in this alliance, i am in ones that could really stir things up. and in case it never goes that far, i'd just do it myself :rolleyes:

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Post by: Elvish_Dude on January 26, 2004, 09:09:25 PM

Do you mean that in a good way or a bad way?

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Post by: opperdude on January 26, 2004, 10:07:04 PM

ehm... he's on our side

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Post by: EvilTracy on January 26, 2004, 11:11:19 PM

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eviltracy, i'd love to give you some numbers, but 85 pages of logs is a bit much. As far as kills/gold stolen, your attacks are the exception, not the rule when it comes to the kill ratio.

OK... then i'm the exception to the rule... I can talk smack and mean it! :P

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Post by: KILLUMALL on January 26, 2004, 11:19:40 PM

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I can talk smack and mean it!

Suuuuuuuurrrreeee you can we belive you LOL LOL LOL

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