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Title: Repair
Post by: Blood Raider on October 20, 2003, 06:21:54 PM
Do ya'll think repairing is too expensive? Small leveled people like me have no problem repairing items, but bigger people with DA or SA in the millions probably have to dish out 10-20k per point to repair thier stuff, do you think this is prohibitive.  To me  I think it is, if it wasn't, there wouldn't be so many feeler accounts out there...

Title: Repair
Post by: _afo_afo on October 20, 2003, 06:35:55 PM
Big people like me just make use of the rounding error. I buy 1 dragonskin a turn because for each time you buy something it heals you by 1 hitpoint. Without this it wouldn't be possible to fix everything.

Title: Repair
Post by: bofor on October 21, 2003, 12:43:36 PM
While playing the beta I got to the point of roughly 27,000 for each repair point. I thought it was still worth repairing but you had to be very selective in who you attacked because the cost of repair could be higher than the amount of gold you stole.

Title: Repair
Post by: MythoS on October 21, 2003, 12:45:29 PM
About repairing...1 question,what affects how much damage your weapons will take???
Is there any way to predict the exact damage???

Title: Repair
Post by: sirjohn13 on October 21, 2003, 01:33:28 PM
1) Affected by the opponent's DA.
2)I think there is a random factor included as well.

3)bofor, u know that when u buy a weapon of a specific category, the rest of this category are repaird by 1pt. I rarely have to pay for repairs.

Title: Repair
Post by: bofor on October 21, 2003, 05:28:52 PM
Actually it had eluded me until recently when diskreet pointed it out to me. But hay I never said I was a brain surgeon. However I've had weapon strength drop by as many as 15 points in one attack and I don't generate enough TBG to counter that  (by buying new weapons) in a short period of time.  :hehe:  

Title: Repair
Post by: Dark_Banana on October 21, 2003, 06:07:59 PM
I would have to agree that repairs can be really expensive!  I understand that it acts as a counter to thoses with massive amounts of guys, but it can be very limiting to those who don't make hundreds of thousands of gold per turn and still possess a decent armoury.  At least its realistic though.

Title: Repair
Post by: sirjohn13 on October 21, 2003, 08:22:16 PM
In this case, u can use another trick. Instead of battle axes/flaming arrows/excaliburs, purchase cheaper weapons (160 or 640 ones), which, although it costs more gold to have the same results u had with the 2560 weapons, are cheap enoguh to be able to buy as many as needed to repair them. So no repair cost for small armies this way. I think this balances the loss from not buying 2560 weapons....And always remember, if u have to repair more than 1pt, purchase weapons 1 by 1.

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Title: Repair
Post by: Goryous on October 21, 2003, 11:10:50 PM
There is a a major problem though with buying weak~cheaper weapons.....they just arnt a good deal concerning gold vs performance. Sure, you can repair the weaker weapons easy but they still will cost you more to get anywhere near the same performance as the 2560 point items.

Title: Repair
Post by: diskreet on October 22, 2003, 12:58:36 AM
my goodness man.. your avi is going to send some poor epileptic (sp?) person to the hospital.

Title: Repair
Post by: Dark_Banana on October 22, 2003, 01:01:29 AM
While you can repair weapons much easier with weaker supplies, they also get a lot less value for your gold i.e. Flaming Arrows are 3 times more expensive than Steeds, but are 4 times more powerful.

Title: Repair
Post by: Arantor on October 23, 2003, 04:32:24 PM
Without upgrades:

Weapon      Cost               Gold/SA    
5                1000               40                  
10              1800               36                  
20              3200               32                
40              5100               25.5              
160           16400              20.5                
640           52400             16.375                
2560        167800             13.109                

I'd never buy anything less than the 640 (Steed, if you're humans).  It's a tremendous waste of gold.

Title: Repair
Post by: Lyban on October 23, 2003, 11:50:55 PM
I agree Arantor, I generally won't purchase anything below the 640 level unless I know it will be a while before I can log in again and I want to drain all my gold. I've found the purchase method a dream in terms of money saved on repairs.

Title: Repair
Post by: TheNerfee on October 24, 2003, 01:07:09 AM
Cool table  :)

Never really knew that but I always figured that 2560 weapons (yay for battle axes!) were worth it more than several knives...Anyways, I really don't buy anything less than dragonskins and battleaxes...I'm sort of obsessive in that I only want 1 type of weapon...the best kind  :hmmm:

Anywho, i haven't had to repair anything yet...the only things at 0 are my 1 knife and 1 hatchet that I bought before...and I don't know how much better they would be if repaired.

What exactly happens to weapons when the get to 0?

Title: Repair
Post by: Lord Lanair on October 24, 2003, 03:33:11 AM
You can scrap them for 0 gold, or repair them halfway and sell them, or just repair and use them again.  ;)  

Title: Repair
Post by: brodyc7 on October 24, 2003, 03:53:46 AM
i have a suggestion smetimes u dont have to repair ur weapons if u just buy more of the same kind so if u r saving up knives u can just buy more knives if ur knives lose points-costs less to

Title: Repair
Post by: FragMaster1972 on October 24, 2003, 04:15:10 AM
yep. most people do.

Title: Repair
Post by: TheNerfee on October 24, 2003, 05:17:05 AM
I mean do weapons lose effectiveness when at 0?  If so how mcuh damage is taken off of em?

Title: Repair
Post by: FragMaster1972 on October 24, 2003, 05:22:54 AM
they lose a little effectiveness for every lost hit point. I believe at 0 they do nothing for you at all.

Title: Repair
Post by: TheNerfee on October 24, 2003, 05:37:31 AM
Oh wow...I never even knew they lost effectiveness until 0...wow, that really makes repair more valuable...

Guess I should have figured that out.