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Title: Creation
Post by: SS on November 28, 2005, 09:37:10 PM
Creation is the code name for what will basically be the next version of BPSITE+HybridChill+these forums.
I'm not yet sure what the final name will be, so if anyone has any suggestions then feel free to give them.

This is just a thread to update people about it, and see if anyone has any good ideas.


Currently, it is divided into five areas: features, activities, resources, articles, community.
The community bit underpins the whole of it and the main part of which is obviously the forums.
I've had the idea of a community clan section, but so far I've not done much with the idea - does anyone think it would be useful, and if so what sort of things would be good?

Each member of the community will have the option to make use of the various member features available. At the moment these are planned to be: Profile; Journal; Calendar; Bookmarks. I've considered an image gallery, but I'm currently uncertain on that.
If there are any features which you would find useful, let me know what they are and how you'd envisage them working.

Activities is the bit where Mindteam and Typing Speed Test will live, and any other activity things I might do.

Resources will (strangely enough) contain resources. Meaning Ri'than Lian, MiniEmotes, IcedWiki, and similar stuff.

It should by now be obvious what Articles will contain. It will essentially be an open library. Personally I plan to do some guides (how to type, how to write good code, etc) and perhaps some other stuff, but the idea of it is to let anyone in the community submit more or less anything - music reviews, stories, poetry, whatever.


So, that's what I'm working towards. I've no idea how long it will take to complete everything, but I'm planning to have the basic stuff in place by the end of this year, with additional bits (Mindteam, EmoteWars, etc) arriving as I complete them.

What are people's thoughts - have I sparked any brilliant brainwaves in anyone's head?


Title: Creation
Post by: Hornet on November 28, 2005, 11:30:07 PM

And here I was thinking you'd started a religous debate. :P

Does a journal mean a calender, a diary, or a blog in this case?  Regarding the forums - don't use Beehive.  Everything else sounds good though. :)

(Although I do wonder how you've got time for all this and not Fate, but meh.  Such is life. :))


Title: Creation
Post by: matt_the_shark on November 29, 2005, 04:43:51 AM
right then, how many years is this going to take? :P


Title: Creation
Post by: Lord Lanair on November 29, 2005, 07:52:54 AM
Heh, I remember when you tried to implement the new forum style months ago and it kinda died...  will this actually work?   :)  


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on November 29, 2005, 02:45:19 PM
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Does a journal mean a calender, a diary, or a blog in this case?
Public diary/blog. Except I don't like the word blog, it's ewwy.

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Although I do wonder how you've got time for all this and not Fate, but meh.
I've got time for Fate too! If it hadn't been rapidly approaching 8pm when I was posting that, I would also have done a thread explaining my plans for continuing Fate, but that'll have to wait until tonight now.



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right then, how many years is this going to take?
More than ln1.01, less than ln101. :P



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Heh, I remember when you tried to implement the new forum style months ago and it kinda died... will this actually work?
That wasn't me trying to implement it, I was just doing some tests & giving people a taster.
And yes it will work.


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on November 29, 2005, 09:15:17 PM
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I've got time for Fate too! If it hadn't been rapidly approaching 8pm when I was posting that, I would also have done a thread explaining my plans for continuing Fate, but that'll have to wait until tonight now.
Tada: http://www.bpsite.co.uk/forums/index.php?a...f=2&t=2482&st=0 (http://www.bpsite.co.uk/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=2482&st=0)


Title: Creation
Post by: smi256 on November 30, 2005, 12:19:17 AM
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right then, how many years is this going to take?
More than ln1.01, less than ln101. :P
/me busts out his calculator...
It will take more then half a week, but less then four and a half years...
Yay!


Title: Creation
Post by: matt_the_shark on November 30, 2005, 01:19:19 AM
isn't that encouraging :)

oh yeah, I agree with hornet:  don't to beehive for the forums :/


Title: Creation
Post by: Lord Lanair on December 01, 2005, 08:46:35 AM
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isn't that encouraging :)
Quite.  :D

Um... what was beehive again?  :miffed:  


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 01, 2005, 05:34:53 PM
didnt we decide beehive was rubbish?


Title: Creation
Post by: matt_the_shark on December 03, 2005, 08:28:40 PM
i believe so.

invision is good :D


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 12, 2005, 02:43:06 PM
Invision is buggy and poo. Beehive is wonderful and great.
Except nobody here seemed to like the Beehive interface even though it is actually much better than this flat style. :(

Hence I'll be modding the forum so that by default it appears like this place, but with an option to switch to the proper interface for people with sense.


Dissapointingly, nobody has come forward with any name suggestions. My current working title is Midnight/Creation - (the address of the site on my local machine), but I don't know if I like that or not, so somebody please suggest something better.


Title: Creation
Post by: Rug on December 12, 2005, 05:01:20 PM
(http://www.bpsite.co.uk/forums/style_images/1/logo.jpg)

Thou shalt use my crappy graphic forever!


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 12, 2005, 06:27:41 PM
good point *notes that down* after deciding today i was moses ive been trying to think up a new ten comandments


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 12, 2005, 06:52:17 PM
Um... if you're Moses surely you should be heading up to Hemel and finding a shrub that talks in order to get the new commandments?


Title: Creation
Post by: Rug on December 12, 2005, 08:14:07 PM
We all know Moses engaged in the classic biblical passtime of Making Shit Up.


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 12, 2005, 09:27:52 PM
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Um... if you're Moses surely you should be heading up to Hemel and finding a shrub that talks in order to get the new commandments?
im that stupid, id rather sit here and think of some, though maybe a car and some corperate sponsorship could go a long way, after all making money is what religions all about


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 13, 2005, 03:15:37 PM
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We all know Moses engaged in the classic biblical passtime of Making Shit Up.
Yeah, but he at least went to the effort of going off up a mountain. If Moses had just stood their and proclaimed the commandments then he would probably have ended up with a golden calf up his arse. Then again, given that it's mole we're talking about, that might be his intention. ;)



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im that stupid, id rather sit here and think of some, though maybe a car and some corperate sponsorship could go a long way, after all making money is what religions all about
I think the power and control stuff is what it's all about; the making money bit is just a pleasant side-effect.


Title: Creation
Post by: Lord Lanair on December 14, 2005, 07:18:57 AM
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Yeah, but he at least went to the effort of going off up a mountain. If Moses had just stood their and proclaimed the commandments then he would probably have ended up with a golden calf up his arse. Then again, given that it's mole we're talking about, that might be his intention. ;)
... ROFLMAOLOLOL.   :hehe:


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I think the power and control stuff is what religion's all about; the making money bit is just a pleasant side-effect.
Er.... what about saving peoples' souls and teaching lessons on how to act correctly?  :(


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 14, 2005, 11:18:13 AM
saving or collecting?  :huh:



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Then again, given that it's mole we're talking about, that might be his intention.

...busted *runs away*


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 14, 2005, 12:08:22 PM
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Er.... what about saving peoples' souls and teaching lessons on how to act correctly?  :(
Oh sorry, forgot to make the {organised religion/religious institutions} vs {religion/spirtualism} distinction.

(Although some people would argue that acting correctly is an entirely moral issue and nothing to do with religion, but I don't agree since there's not really any absolute morals, so it's just what people believe, which is religion.)


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 14, 2005, 06:22:20 PM
i did find myself comtemplating the removal of middle eastern religions from society last night  :unsure:  


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 14, 2005, 08:05:46 PM
That would be Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

How were you planning on doing it?


Title: Creation
Post by: smi256 on December 15, 2005, 06:22:20 AM
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[...] and teaching lessons on how to act correctly?  :(
They aren't doing a very good job of it.  Many very religious people that I've come across are extreme [ things that I have chosen to not say ] ...  :ph34r:  


Title: Creation
Post by: Hornet on December 15, 2005, 12:41:01 PM
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That would be Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

How were you planning on doing it?

So it is a religious debate after all. :P

Talking of which though, does anybody know anyone who's a Jehovah's Witness?  I'm having rather dire trouble with them, although not in the way you might expect. :(


Title: Creation
Post by: Lord Lanair on December 15, 2005, 05:51:54 PM
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Talking of which though, does anybody know anyone who's a Jehovah's Witness?  I'm having rather dire trouble with them, although not in the way you might expect. :(
Wackos?  LOL

Meh, I actually think most religions are both essential and a net positive for humanity.  :mellow:  


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 15, 2005, 06:18:37 PM
as far as keeping check of peoples morals maybe, though in some countrys they go too far, christianity in america is an example of one extreme and  islam in the the middle east as another. both feel they are doing the right thing...im not sure how to say this as even im finding ways to twist my words  :hmmm:  


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 15, 2005, 06:22:22 PM
back to the board. why is the time wrong? its an hour ahead when im on daylight savings and two hours when im on BST...pretty sure im not an hour late for work


Title: Creation
Post by: RipperRoo on December 15, 2005, 06:25:40 PM
Whoa, thats wierd, the boards idea of GMT is an hour into the future. :/


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 15, 2005, 07:59:07 PM
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Talking of which though, does anybody know anyone who's a Jehovah's Witness?  I'm having rather dire trouble with them, although not in the way you might expect.
If it's not what we'd expect then tell us what it is! :P

I used to have a friend who was a JW, but haven't seen him since school (about seven years, I think), and don't think I've got his e-mail any more.

If it's a case of needing to know something, I've got a brother-in-law that I might be able to help (he teaches RE).


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The time is an hour fast because either Invision is reading the time wrong, or the server time is wrong. (I think it's the latter.)
Fortunately, Invision has a correction thingy, so the times should now be correct.


Title: Creation
Post by: Hornet on December 16, 2005, 01:06:30 PM
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If it's not what we'd expect then tell us what it is! :P

Gah.  Basically, I'm... romantically involved, shall we say, with a Witness.  Her family are dead-set on my conversion, and what's left of mine is dead-set against it.  Although I'd have a hell of a job to believe it anyway.

She's as logical about things as I am, and so we've agreed that I'm going to draw up an argument against religion - essentially proving via philosophy that there isn't a god.  Although the burden of proof is actually in their court, but I'm still going to try it anyway.

For those who don't know, when a witness leaves the religion, they're totally shunned by the rest of them.  And they disapprove of mixing, far less romancing, people who aren't witnesses - so her entire circle of friends, such as it is, are witnesses as well.   So if I do convince her that there isn't actually any sort of god or afterlife (and they even deny evolution), thus proving the whole shebang groundless, it'll turn her life upside down.  Which is probably the reason they created the shunning policy, as a deterrant to leaving - it's an overgrown cult.  :(

Some further (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses) reading. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practices_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses#Shunning)


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 16, 2005, 03:32:05 PM
Eeek. Can't think of any advice or anything, but goodluck!


Title: Creation
Post by: smi256 on December 17, 2005, 02:47:32 AM
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The neutrality of this article is disputed.
ROFLMAO LOL

sorry y0, but this is the sort of sh...stuff that takes far too much understanding of history/myth in order to understand properly.  In my limited understanding and opinion, jehovah's witnesses are right above seventh day adventists on the list of crazy christianlit religions...
Maybe it's just because it's evangelical... :(  


Title: Creation
Post by: Hornet on December 19, 2005, 01:17:55 AM
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In my limited understanding and opinion, jehovah's witnesses are right above seventh day adventists on the list of crazy christianlit religions...
Maybe it's just because it's evangelical... :(

No, they're nutters all.  The whole thing hinges around social pressure and manipulation - the evangelising is only a small part of it.

We've agreed that I'll present the argument when she's finished her A-levels, otherwise.  Well, she wants to be told now, but I suspect that's partly because she doesn't like the idea of not knowing something.  And I suppose it says a fair bit about my mental state at the moment that I'm discussing all this. :(

But if anyone has any evidence against god, or witnesses, or religion in general really, could you post it?  Occam's razor, the problem of evil, religous diversity, anything will help.  Cheers.


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 19, 2005, 02:08:27 AM
all this stuff has been discussed and argued before, please dont set it off again. were all so opinionated here we could make a PHD thesis for athiesm


Title: Creation
Post by: Lord Lanair on December 19, 2005, 04:50:47 AM
*growl*  Atheists = evil!  :angry:

Hehe, j/k... mostly.   LOL  


Title: Creation
Post by: smi256 on December 19, 2005, 05:50:17 AM
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all this stuff has been discussed and argued before, please dont set it off again. were all so opinionated here we could make a PHD thesis for athiesm
Isn't religion all opinion anyway?
(Except in the eyes of the religious...)


Title: Creation
Post by: Hornet on December 19, 2005, 11:25:52 AM
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all this stuff has been discussed and argued before, please dont set it off again. were all so opinionated here we could make a PHD thesis for athiesm

Apologies, I wasn't aware of any such discussion.  And a thesis is essentially what I'm trying to write.


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 19, 2005, 03:17:20 PM
Took me a while to figure out what mole was talking about. Here's the thread:
http://www.bpsite.co.uk/forums/index.php?a...t=ST&f=2&t=2049 (http://www.bpsite.co.uk/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=2049)

Might be some useful stuff in there.


Title: Creation
Post by: Rug on December 19, 2005, 03:56:14 PM
This site (http://the-scholars.com/viewforum.php?f=18&topicdays=0&start=0) has tonnes of religious discussions. Might find some use there.


Title: Creation
Post by: mole on December 19, 2005, 06:27:30 PM
you can probably figure about the point that gets cyclicar so you wont want to read all of it


Title: Creation
Post by: Rug on December 19, 2005, 10:34:04 PM
That thread that was here is a good example of why the sane avoid arguing with the religious.. they ignore the thrust of your point, attempt to condescend, and make shit up.


Title: Creation
Post by: RipperRoo on December 20, 2005, 08:13:36 PM
Hey Matt, you just described politicians!


Title: Creation
Post by: matt_the_shark on December 21, 2005, 01:06:13 AM
LOL good point :D


Title: Creation
Post by: Hornet on December 21, 2005, 11:05:53 AM
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Hey Matt, you just described politicians!

And lawyers.

To those it concerns - thanks for the links.  They're much appreciated. :)


Title: Creation
Post by: SS on December 22, 2005, 08:14:11 PM
There seems to be a pattern emerging here...



Anyhow, goodluck with your essay thingy.