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today i saw in my attack log taht som1 had stolen from me 200k, i wanted to sab him a bit but then i saw the cost of every covert misiion i'll make: 2 mo**** f****** attack turns!!
can any1 explain to me why?!

I think that the cost change for sub is better for low rank and players with low cover cause now the high spy man will think more about spending turns to sab  just for fun. :rolleyes:  

They changed the requirement to 2 attack turns?!?  :angry:  Aargh!  At least I know how my 700 turns will now be spent.  <_<  

410 people better not make me angry :D

from what has been said the KoC admins have changed it to discourage indiscriminate sabotaging so people now have to think twice about using this option.

LOL i still use my sab on my farms

but now it'll cost you 2 attack turns, this is sad...  :(  

i wish they have done this ealier....why do they have to rise this when i got lvl 8 spy...

They wanted to make us poor elves feel even more useless.  :(  

oh... my poor thing... its so touching...  :orcdie:  

ha, i don't worry about turns, cuz i don't use them....

I say they should make it more like 4 turns per sab.  That'll discourage a lot of people from destroying others' accounts.  <_<  

Fine by me if I have my elf to human upgrade too.  LOL  

It'll also make sabbing so much more evil... people who want to sab for fun will get huge spy skills, and then'll be able to take out  more weapons in one attempt.

Until then, the rest of us will have enough time to build up a spy defense.  ;)  

Sub was evil since the begging of the game.
I feel it many times.
No it's better for players of lower rank
Those 10 lvl spy (count me also) will think twice before sab someone.

Just my 2 cents, I think anything they do to decrease the potential damage of Sab is good.  Sab is way too powerful as it is, you can send someone literally back to nothing with enough spies and attacks.  Most of the upgrades in game are too expensive at the higher levels, requiring that you have an insane turn-based income, because if you get your money from attacking people you run the risk of losing everything you have gained.  Then again, you still run that risk even without provoking others, but at least now they have to spend an extra attack on you and hopefully that will discourage them from doing so.

i only get about 20k / turn, and ive had no problem getting level 9 spies. you just have to play your cards right.  

Show off.  <_<  You also need fewer enemies than I have.  LOL  

Yeah, and some of those orcs are so touchy when you take their money.  It is nice to catch their spies though and know they lost 2 turns now instead of just one. :P  

Except when it's your two spies that get caught.   <_<   Orcs are touchy though, and stupid.  :D  

Some people just sabbed u to ground spending 5-10 attack turns just because u stole them 200k or tried to attack/recon them. Now they will have to spend  twice as many attack turns to do that, so they might think better of.

Sabbing now costs 5 turns  :P

ouch!!!  man, what's the use now of having the spies except to prevent being sabbed?  You elves are losing you're 25% bonus left and right.  I suppose this prevents frivolous sabbing, but for those of us with lower attack turns, it prevents useful hits as well...

5 attack turns... hrm... guess people will think 5 times before sabbing now, eh?

OK, that was corny but it needed to be said.

I still can't complain.  Sab really needed some adjustment.  Not saying that it's adjusted right now, but it needed something.  We'll see if it effectively controls Sab now.

well thats about all there good for now is to stopyou being sabbed which for some of the bigger players was the most logical to use for retaliation against the smaller players who  attacked them werent worth the  cost in attacking as there was no value in it .so maybe they need to reintroduce the size attack limits from age 1 which would have a two fold benifit of protecting the smaller armies from the larger armies and make the larger armies look closer to home for someone to attack
 

It would be fine if they introduced size attack limits, so long as they're not asymmetric like they were in Age1.  It sucked to have some guy 1/5 your size attacking you regularly, but there was nothing you could do about it.

if it were up to me, i'd make it 1 attack turn per item attempted to be sab'd.

I probably have fewer enemies because I don't attack much. Pkus, I catch a lot of people trying to spy me, and a lot of people won't attack if they can't spy. :)

I like disk's method of sabbing....sounds fair.  

5 attack turns to sab all but some 1000 people in the game... this game is being ruined... <_< :blink:

too bad one can't code a way in the game for sab prices to be decreased, a sliding scale of sorts, when used against some weasel who repeatedly attacks you but doesn't pay worth anything (i.e. there's no way to really get back at him except by sabbing him)  

the moment i saw that 5 attack turns for a sab, i said, HOLY CRAP!

*me curses the damned KoC admins*

like I said before, I pity you elves getting your bonus screwed, me, I'm just a regular hack n' slash kinda human, attack and take the cash.....for the moment, maybe I'll take on some sabbing if I can save enough freakin' attack turns. :hehe:  

Yep.. 5 turns is WAY TOO MUCH!!!

 

<--- 1k+ attack turns, level 9. if u need something, call

how do you save up so many?  you must not do that much attacking.  gotta have patience here.  like my new mantra?  it's not only for saving attack turns, it covers the whole blanky blank time I'm spending trying to see if the site is available yet. <_<  

I think some very important points have been raised here, and some excellent ideas suggested.  I saw nothing wrong with the idea of level limits in Age 1, in theory, but yes, it was frustrating being attacked endlessly on the lower end without being able to retaliate.  I thought Age 2 would work well with a level limit, once outside that range you can't attack them, but you can still sab them to retaliate.  You're not robbing some little army, but you're still able to stomp some ants if need be.  I'm not sure exactly where they want Age 2 to end up, but the way it is now, I'm sure they're alienating a good portion of the players of the game, what with the constant database errors and "readjustments" of the rules, it's totally changing the game that I'm sure many liked upon first glance.

I personaly think there no prob with small armies...

No one will farm them because they have few sodiers and money = few gold

But still you shuld be able to teach them a lesson or two by attacking them back or small (!!) sab

The are f.... the game.
Ok till now i have been sabbed and sab many times, i don't care cause i reach level 10 many days ago, but what about all those people who try to save money to take lvl 10 and then sab a llitle, is this fair??? :huh:  

I honestly don't know how pervasive sabbing has been as I've only been in attack battles with other players.  I suppose that's the risk of hitting the wrong person? <_<   I so far have made it to where I am with no direct alliance help (yes, I've gotten growth through officers in alliances) but the rest has been good management...and some, well lots of it seems, luck  :rolleyes:   I do think sabbing belongs in the game, but it got a raw deal at 5 attack turns now.

If anything, they should have put further CA penalties on non-elves if they're going to increase the cost by so much...
:|
Not fair that elves are the ones that get really screwed over, while the other races aren't as influenced (elves DEPEND on CA and sabotage)

Now tha I have a good CA, I say sabbing should be unregulated again.  More realistically, the 2 attack turn per sab was probably the best idea so far concerning sabbing costs.   ;)  

Yeah, finally get built up to have some fun and protection, and they make it worthless, way too expensive and no joy at all  :(