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Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: dark_elf_wench on October 13, 2003, 02:27:36 AM
Greetings, members of The Great Alliance,

My name is Dark Elf Wench, and I represent the alliance, the Dogs of War. Friday, we launched a concentrated attack upon the New Orc Order and met with some successes. Of course, we did not go into the endeavor half-heartedly. The attack was preceded by two days of viscious and stealthy sabotage which paved the way for our assault and hamstrung their ability to retaliate.

Some of our successes in this endeavor:
- 11 fewer orcs roam the land of Chaos (11 more INVALID USER accounts as a result)

- Their leader, Errtu, has been trashed by our leader to the point that he is having to spend money to get more defense to keep from being attacked repeatedly for his treasury...an endeavor at which he is currently not being successful.

- The average power of their orc members has decreased (average ranking of exising members dropped by several thousand points when considered as a whole).

The New Orc Order (or as we have taken to referring to them, the "Newly Owned Orcs") are hurting. We continue our assault, and we strike from secrecy so they have few targets to retaliate against. They are at a loss, and  their feeble orc minds cannot wrap around the concept of having a hidden member list. We have their list and are pounding it mercilessly...they have only the names of members we have given up to them through attacks. We are, in my estimation, winning this war.

As such, we formally ask for no assistance from you. But I have heard rumor of your longstanding hatred for the Order, and tales of a thrashing that they attempted to administer to you in the past. If ever there was some retaliation due to these foul orcs, now would be a fine opportunity.

I just wanted to make that opportunity known to you, so that you may take advantage of the confusion and devastation currently among their ranks, either as an alliance or on an individual basis.

May your blade find the heart of your enemies,

Dark Elf Wench
 


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Everous on October 13, 2003, 02:46:47 AM
edit: i've been a little hasty...

this thing needs some serious consideration...


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: slayerselune on October 13, 2003, 02:49:29 AM
let's take this thread to the fortress so we can set up some plans!!!!  oh boy oh boy  fun fun!!!


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: _afo_afo on October 13, 2003, 03:07:48 AM
OMFG ORC SLAYINGS AT 12PM!!!!!!!!!1 LOL  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: ns33 on October 13, 2003, 03:18:53 AM
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let's take this thread to the fortress so we can set up some plans!!!!  oh boy oh boy  fun fun!!!
Although this was created for the purpose of informing dark elf wrench our decision. Internal discussion is probably in fortress, but else out here.

Anyway, hi to elf wrench! Dont mind the chaos around here, you get used to it after you've been here long enough. :P Hopefully, you can stick around and Everous or Auron will find someone new to pick on.  ;)  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 13, 2003, 03:46:34 AM
well i for one do not know which side to believe. i've been crusin on N.O.O. forums and they seem very cocky and they say they're winning the war and Wench(heh, heh, sorry) is sayin the same stuff. I guess we really do not know and it would suk if we bit off more then we could chew. cuz they also got IB and TDF on their sides. Since Orcs are our natural enemies i'm in a toss-up on this one  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Everous on October 13, 2003, 03:47:55 AM
do our principles change with who's winning?

just a random thought...


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 13, 2003, 03:51:22 AM
well N.O.O. is our long time rivals but it would also depend on wheter DoW allows orcs


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Aikon on October 13, 2003, 03:55:47 AM
lolol!

i have to object!.. really..

dark_elf_wench is so full of shit.. (and prolly a 9 yr old).. they haven't hurt us one bit.. only thing they do is sell of their DA for SA.. and still can't cut it..

i have no idea at all who those 11 more INVALID USER accounts are.. rofl.. prolly leechers and inactives.. cuz i didn't see any of them complaining bout being sabbed.. rofl.. thx for cleaning up for us ;)

the doggies have no other choice but hide their pathetic member list cuz they get pwned.. LOL

i can't believe TGA gets involved with such newbies.. cuz that's what they are.. mostly wasting their attack turns.. rofl.. 15 turns from their so called *cough* leader for 90k gold of me.. 1 turn worth of income.. aaauwtch.. that hurt as hell.. i think i'm gonna delete my account for that.. roflmao.. i got more out of u guys already with my shitty stats (i know i know) with less turns then u guys used..

this war.. a bit of an overstatement haha.. has made the NOO live again.. thank you for that though.. but for the rest.. the doggies are just a big joke to ammuse us.. LOL

if TGA decides to make a war out of this.. fine by me.. maybe worth a challenge for once.. ain't speaking for the NOO here.. only for myself :cool:

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- The average power of their orc members has decreased (average ranking of exising members dropped by several thousand points when considered as a whole).

that's weird.. i went up a couple of thousands :P


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 13, 2003, 04:00:36 AM
as u can see, i have no idea who to believe. Btw nice avi Aikon LOL and also is it a coincidence that u appeared on this forum just after this thread started or did someone tip u off?


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 13, 2003, 04:29:18 AM
just to get this interesting topic moving, how exactly did this war come about?


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Aikon on October 13, 2003, 04:38:57 AM
we were just minding our own business.. then one night (for me it was night) they started to silly 5*1 attack most NOO members.. with fake accounts turning up inactive when i saw it.. then sending us retarded msgs like woof woof and bla bla bla.. they're all full of shit.. we didn't know why or anything they just attacked.. then they finnaly explain themselves.. telling us someone of our members have been farming their oh so *cough* great *cough* leader.. instead of taking it up with him they began this ammusing nonsense.. and oh yes.. the doggies accept orcs.. most of them are orcs.. their leader is an orc.. LOL

Thug_Ironskull (http://www.kingsofchaos.com/stats.php?id=1015214)
Cedric_Ironwood (http://www.kingsofchaos.com/stats.php?id=1040670)

are 2 orcs and doggies comming close to worth mentioning LOL


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: EvilTracy on October 13, 2003, 04:40:17 AM
Actually, Aikon is mistaken... we have had people quit since the war started... yeah, one guy who's attack was less than 4,000... he got 160K taken... so I sabbed his attackers skins and mithril... but he still couldn't get through.. .he got frustrated and started over... yeah, but it wasn't a DoW member who attacked him.

Dark_Elf_Wench... hehe.. here is the damage he did...

3 days ago Dark_Elf_Wench Attack defended 1 11 1 307,998  (yep... that's him who lost 11 to my 1)

Dragonskin
All were used
None were found to be sabotaged
Weapon strength went from 2,560 to 2,560   <---no dice there
Heavy Shield
All were used
None were found to be sabotaged
Weapon strength went from 640 to 640    <---no dice there
Chainmail
All were used
None were found to be sabotaged
Weapon strength went from 40 to 39 <---I think I bought one more and it repaired itself.

Oh, let's not forget their leader... I had to attack him to test him out...
1 day ago Thug_Ironskull 93,186 Gold stolen 15 18 2 1,764,650 18,273,048
.... yep, Aikon... looks like they are selling all their defense in hopes to pluck a scale from my dragonskins..

Oh, and BTW... If you read their website... they like orcs... but will accept other players if they are war mongering peeps... yeah, so they are a lot of orcs too... most ones who couldn't handle the wait for NOO.
 :ph34r:

Oh... one last thing... if you check our boards.. the general forum... you see a post from cedric ironwood (DoW member)... here's a clip...

"You know you guys cant even see honor for what it is can yall. I asked to join NOO about a weak b4 i asked to join DOW. With DOW i was acepted the very next day, with NOO well as you can see i never got acepted. I dont think that we are more powerful then NOO is so its rather odvious that i didnt join them just for strong friends. And half the time i dont even get clicked by everyone in my click group and at first i was clicken it 2x a day. So i didnt join them for the clicks eather. The one reason tho that i did join them for is that they acepted me as a member when they didnt know me. "

As you can see... DoW is a bunch that's looking for love... they feel lonley.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 13, 2003, 04:42:47 AM
interesting. who tipped u off on this thread, cuz it ain'ta coincidence u guyz wandered in after this thread wuz posted


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Everous on October 13, 2003, 04:47:07 AM
i told them about the thread...i thought the situation needed further explaination

and secrecy often broods lies...


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Drauka on October 13, 2003, 04:58:15 AM
Nice attack man. (Or defence i'm somewhat retarded when it comes to the attack logs)


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Lord Lanair on October 13, 2003, 05:08:04 AM
So where do we stand now, Ev?  I'm not sure who to listen to now...  :unsure:


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Everous on October 13, 2003, 05:09:43 AM
i have NO idea...  :huh:  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Aikon on October 13, 2003, 05:11:03 AM
we had quitters? :blink: anyone i know?  :huh:

well.. anyway.. if they quit.. they're no good.. more room for better ones ;)


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Lord Lanair on October 13, 2003, 05:12:45 AM
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i have NO idea...  :huh:
Maybe a thread in the Fortress or a council meeting?  :miffed:

... or a poll!  LOL  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Goryous on October 13, 2003, 05:27:48 AM
I beleive reptilian_zero quit and some small people that were attacking me LOL. One of them wasnt such a bad farm for a while even LOL.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Eirana[NOO] on October 13, 2003, 07:03:28 AM
Did someone say we were at war?  Thats so laughable its not even funny.  Just cruise over the to NOO forums and check out our Hall of War where members have been posting some of the day's muddhole stomping.  Or check out of General forum to see how much fun we've been having at their expense.  These guys are so weak they sent a peace offer after day one.  DAY ONE... good lord how sad is that?  They basically did their super secret stealth ninja raping of the weakest members of NOO and sent us a peace offering after a few NOO members beat the crap out of them.  Anyways their testicular ambush has re-awoken our forums.  I suppose at least for that fact alone I should thank them.  I should also thank them for providing us an immense source of entertainment at their expense.  This is the most fun I've had in koc since this age began.

-Eirana
New Orc Order
Virbag Legion


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: FragMaster1972 on October 13, 2003, 08:15:23 AM
not quite sure who to believe here.....I'm almost leaning towards NOO just because I've actually *heard* of em. I know they have some powerful members, and don't think they would have people quitting just because of a small war. Either way, I see no point in joining a war that has no founding. The Dogs clearly aren't attacking out of hatred for orcs, which is our problem with NOO. I say if we go to war, it's on our terms and when we want. I'd rather fight a war for a good reason (cause orcs are dirty and smelly and evil!) rather then "meh, we felt like it."


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Psygod on October 13, 2003, 08:52:12 AM
right, after everybody posted their thoughts here, what should we do..? i know!! we sit and do nothing! when i read all the posts i saw that none of the TGA  members posted here didnt express is opinion about helping or not helping this alliance (for this matter, thats why this thraed was created), and now topic here is: who's winning, was there a war anyway... i suggest to close this thread and if the admins want to take further action move this thread to the fortress.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Everous on October 13, 2003, 04:13:43 PM
the DoW leader is an orc...its filled with orcs

in effect this is a feud between two orc alliances, i don't see why we should intervene


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Rug on October 13, 2003, 04:18:00 PM
Two things:

1, We are currently still officially allied with NOO against Relentless. This may change in the near future, but at present, TGA will take no action against NOO.

2, Aikon. Your avatar is obscene and will be removed before I ban you from these forums. This forum is meant to be suitable for users all the way down to 13 years of age, and your avatar is clearly not suitable. Remove it.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: MetaLFriK-Eet Fuk on October 13, 2003, 04:39:47 PM
1.   DoW are stupid jackasses who actually think they are winning this war when the only member attacking us is  Thug Ironskull and stealing 150k (the guys hes stealing therse from make 200k a turn)  :D     i just dont understand y u would wnat to allie with them, they are full of damn lies! :blink:         n e ways frag i love your avatar!!!! much better than aikons   :cool:

2. Auron u damn party pooper let me see aikons avi!!  :o  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: ns33 on October 13, 2003, 05:14:31 PM
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1, We are currently still officially allied with NOO against Relentless. This may change in the near future, but at present, TGA will take no action against NOO.
Ive certainly nothing much to say; against war unless absolutely neccessary. But like said, this conflict doesnt involve us, and, for what its worth, Id like to see no participation from TGA on behalf of this matter.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: sirjohn13 on October 13, 2003, 06:06:29 PM
I suggest we smash both DoW and NOO for spamming our forum :P  :P  :P  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: MetaLFriK-Eet Fuk on October 13, 2003, 06:16:42 PM
ooo damn.....another jackass   :huh:  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: ~Errtu~ on October 13, 2003, 06:17:40 PM
*yawn*
and now the facts:
1) they have attacked us unprovoked
2) not a single of our members left cause of getting attacked by them
3) we lost thousands of ranks? bane of darkness and thug ironskull went from rank 100 to rank 18k so stfu
4)successfull attacks on me:

1 day ago Thug_Ironskull 108,037 Gold stolen 15 17 25 10,240,099 9,287,070 details
2 days ago Thug_Ironskull 230,449 Gold stolen 15 15 23 8,886,704 8,534,868 details
2 days ago Thug_Ironskull 238,698 Gold stolen 15 27 39 8,710,353 8,546,298
details

Successfull attacks on their 2 strongest (yeah! strongest!) members:
1 day ago Bane_of_Darkness 157,083 Gold stolen 15 15 0 8,184 11,391,465 details
1 day ago Thug_Ironskull 303,065 Gold stolen 15 1 0 1,495 11,379,180 details
2 days ago Thug_Ironskull 171,769 Gold stolen 15 12 3 1,716,572 11,071,762 details
2 days ago Bane_of_Darkness 249,671 Gold stolen 15 25 13 4,447,143 11,053,016 details
2 days ago Thug_Ironskull 317,910 Gold stolen 15 18 4 1,588,292 10,964,538 details
2 days ago Bane_of_Darkness 301,335 Gold stolen 15 25 13 4,416,621 10,946,617 details
2 days ago Bane_of_Darkness 279,943 Gold stolen 15 21 10 4,457,250 11,240,688 details
2 days ago Thug_Ironskull 221,356 Gold stolen 15 12 3 1,750,885 11,369,325 details
3 days ago Thug_Ironskull 112,423 Gold stolen 5 20 8 3,068,435 10,438,312 details
3 days ago Bane_of_Darkness 1,020,146 Gold stolen 15 43 20 4,305,027 10,476,131 details
3 days ago Bane_of_Darkness 57,451 Gold stolen 1 38 17 4,440,564 10,687,946 details

notice that the day ironskulls attack raised by like 2 million his defense fell like 3 million. now every newbie in NOO is farming them... and no: i'm not putting all my gold into defense to defend them. i've been playing like this all time through. i don't give a fish bout those puppies
5) this is what i got after the first day of this war by thug ironskull:
Thug_Ironskull Are you ready to talk?        
Are you ready to talk? I thought I should bring this up. We can keep in this viscious cycle, but I have achieved my goals. Several of your members, such as Oray, threatened to make Bane_of_Darkness into a farm. He threatened Bane that he had a powerful alliance that backed him. But sometimes, he shouldn't threaten somebody unless he knows how powerful they truly are. Oray was just the last straw. Several members of the Dogs of War have either been sabotaged to the stone age (before the war occurred, not as a result of) or were attacked...more like farmed...and as one of the leaders of Dogs of War, I was hard pressed to make any sort of retaliation against the New Orc Order since I was attempting to gain membership, but as I was in an alliance with Dogs of War and only a pending (or whatever you call it) member of NOO, the alliance won out, especially after the attack on Bane.

You may not recall, but awhile back I sent you a note...about a month ago...that I wished to join. I sent you a personal message via the KoC system. After a couple of weeks, I decided to form my own alliance, the Dogs of War. Within that time, we have grown in numbers to rival yours. (By my count, it is only one off...with NOO still having one extra member to our number.) So in a way, the inability of the NOO to gain membership caused this whole event.

One of the goals that I achieved is the fact that I got you in a situation where you had to get that membership involved and dealt with. So at least I've accomplished that.

My second goal was to prove that your membership, even those at the top, are not untouchable.

My third goal was to give satisfaction to the membership within the Dogs of War that have suffered at the hands of the NOO. I believe I have accomplished this to their approval.

We can continue in this war, but we both know that in KOC there are only setbacks, not finalities, just small battles. If you wi****o continue, that is up to you. Although I'm unsure if I could call them off. Our council of company lead
 
and now....who's winning this "war" again?
hope this msg cleared up sum things

P.S.: i'm too lazy to edit out the damage i'm causing. if u think it's interesting: note down my damage sumwhere if ya like to


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Lord Lanair on October 13, 2003, 06:23:31 PM
I'd now have to say we shouldn't interfere, but sirjohn had an interesting idea!  LOL  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Rug on October 13, 2003, 06:50:08 PM
Interesting Err, but I would request that this is kept civil - No bitching, no name calling. Im prepared to allow the use of these forums if the two parties here wish to work something out and / or talk on neutral ground... I have no problems with this. But, if you start mouthing off, this offer will be immediately revoked.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: ns33 on October 13, 2003, 08:32:43 PM
Wow, this place has suddenly become a neutral battle field between these two. As good hosts, I think we shouldnt intervene between these two. Good?  :sheep:  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Rug on October 13, 2003, 08:36:44 PM
That was the implication.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Psygod on October 14, 2003, 12:18:02 AM
guys live this issue alone
TGA must not interfere.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 14, 2003, 01:37:22 AM
yes i say we should remain neutral after the facts shown above


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Lord Lanair on October 14, 2003, 02:33:10 AM
I haven't heard anything new from either of them, so I'm assuming the conflict is over?  :miffed:  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Goryous on October 14, 2003, 02:46:35 AM
Well, one thing for sure.....we know who and what NOO is...and personally i havnt heard of the other alliance that says they are beating them...LOL. For some reason i just dont buy it that some fairly small alliance that comes out of the blue is just wiping the floor with NOO and all their allies. I say lets finish off relentless if we can and always find out the reasons for people trying to have  us "help" them then letting them use us as cover. We know relentless is the main~major threat and should keep priorities straight.  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 14, 2003, 03:10:22 AM
i think DoW is just trying to set up another war btwn us and finish off whoever is left. Altho i'm mostly neutral, i respect N.O.O. more than DoW, especially when they don't back up their facts.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Aikon on October 14, 2003, 03:29:03 AM
aww auron.. my avie :(
it isn't THAT revealing u know :P

me thinks those 13yr-olds see much worse things on the net then this.. i dunno cuz i got a popup killer but there should be some way nastier popups with XXX rated content on koc even.. then my pic..

but anyways back to topic.. the war is not over yet.. they gotta learn not to pick a fight with someone they can't handle..if they actually think we are going to leave it at this they are very wrong..

maybe these puppies can be another mark on our wall of destroyed alliances.. next to the SisSY alliance.. and some other alliance.. something with "blood" in it IIRC

the doggies have been quiet though.. these last 24 hours..


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Drauka on October 14, 2003, 04:57:28 AM
I agree with your last statement Akion.

Would be alliances who attack the big boys need to be swatted, perhaps even dusted. Anyone stupid enough to mass attack NOO without the firepower shouldn't play KoC. That isn't a "newbie error" Thats a complete and total fuk up.

Red, I disagree with you. I think that the DoW realized they were gonna get a swatted, and decided to goto our forums to get us in on it by saying they were winning. While it was good diplomatic thinking, they should have provided false proof like prez. Bush did... (Who in my honest oppinion isn't as stupid as he seems to be)


In cause you dont know what I mean, these in my eyes:
Swat: A powerful strike, dealing great ammounts of damage to the weak or small. (or Small sabs)
Dust: A series of Swats resulting in; The loss of many men, a complete armoury, and/or a ton of gold. (or Large sabs)


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Filran on October 14, 2003, 11:21:39 AM
W00T! The orcs of DOOM! *throws confetti at the NOO members. For a person who is supposed to hate Orcs, he sure gets along with them well. :P Maybe that stint in an orc army long ago perhaps? XD*

Anyway, this thread and all its pointless bickering has made me hungry. Now, for my two cents worth.

I say, TGA shouldn't give a damn, unless NOO says: Hey... wanna mush some stupid orcs with us? :)
And if they don't, I say TGA and NOO go out and get some food, cause damnit, I'm hungry, and thats really all I'm thinking about.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: opperdude on October 14, 2003, 01:42:39 PM
ehm i think the last few posts by TGA members werent that neutral... mebbe keep it low, and let them orcs butcher each other :P

come to think of it... has a small alliance ever attacked TGA? cause i'd like to see sum action in age 2, and then i don't mean like with relentless that just weakened people, no kill em all the way


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: sirjohn13 on October 14, 2003, 01:48:44 PM
Ok, so as TGA I guess our decision is: DoW and NOO u can do whatever you want, it is not of our concern, we will not take any sides, nor care who wins.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: opperdude on October 14, 2003, 02:04:47 PM
well... if NOO loses we'll have to go and look for a new traditional enemy :P  ;)  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Bane on October 14, 2003, 07:44:26 PM
Im sorry but I just have to say how funny it is that the Newly Owned Orcs are being so cocky, and talking nothing but trash.

#1 This was not NOT started unprovoked. When you get farmed over and over again, and you decideto do something about it, how does that become an unprovoked attack?

#2 Ive heard nothing but b!tching coming from the NOO over this war. The Dow have not.

#3 Its a game. Chill guys

#4I bet its making the Newly Owned orcs FUME that they set out (per their own posts) to make as many Dogs quit as they can, and so far sense this war has started the score if your going by that is DoW - 11 and NOO - 0

To TGA... quit frankly I am not going to spam your boards with all this, I just wanted to say my piece at that point, sense some of you have been curious about it, and Wench has not posted in a while. I say join us, but its up to you. No ill will towards TGA if you dont.

Bane


Side note - remember how in stories, how the big empire would act cocky and tell everyone they are not worried about the rising rebellion? ect ect... how did most of those stories end? Oh yeah... I think the empire fell.... just a thought...


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: dark_elf_wench on October 14, 2003, 08:32:31 PM
Esteemed members of The Great Alliance,

I have not been active on your forum, as I see no reason to spam you with the details of our conflict with the NOO. I have waited several days to reply, saving up many issues to address all at once.

1) To those of you in the New Orc Order who are visiting this board and believe that we have asked TGA for assistance: If you will read my original missive, you will see that this is not indeed the case. We need no assistance and have asked for none. from TGA or from anyone else. My message was simply a courtesy letter to inform the members of the Great Alliance that one of their previously-declared enemies was being assaulted and that if they wanted to take advantage of the opportunity, it was there. Whether they wish to take advantage of it personally or as an alliance or not at all is, of course, completely their decision.

2) To the person who commented that I was probably a nine-year-old: How many nine-year-olds have you met that can write with proper grammer and spelling or who have the patience to type a letter of significant length? I find it likely that those who fill the boards with obscenities are more likely the nine-year-olds, as words with four letters are very easy to spell and name-calling requires little thought on the part of the agressor. I'm certainly flattered that you missed my age by about twenty years to the young direction, though, instead of the other direction, which would make me an grumpy old lady.

3) On the eleven people who have quit the NOO or are showing invalid user: One has returned. He was apparently on hiatus due to being grounded. (Was someone discussing that OUR alliance was made of children?) One, Azman666, I know for certain quit as a response by predations made almost entirely on my part. Of course, he was complaining about these before we went to war. The war and the remainder of my allies attacking him was somewhat the last nail in the coffin of that account. But it was the Dogs who did it. The other nine, who knows? All I know is that we have received messages from the NOO to our leadership stating that their goal was to see as many "invalid users" in our ranks as possible, so that must be a standard for "winning", at least in their perception. By my count, of those NOO and Dogs who were members the day before we began our sabs for the assault (last Wednesday), 10 have quit from NOO and 2 from Dogs of War. So, by that definition, we are "winning".

4) To those who want to know if we allow orcs into the Dogs of War: Yes. We have members of all races. Our leader is Thug_Ironskull, an orc. Cedric_Ironwood, who someone mentioned above, is also an orc, and we have several others, none of whom will I name, since, as has been mentioned above, we don't post our membership list to a website. In our opinion, that is the height of either pride or stupidity, depending on how you look at it. We have never made a secret of having orcs within our ranks. I was chosen to speak with the Great Alliance out of respect for your views on orcs, and to not pollute your forum with the distasteful warmongering grunts of their race, a respect that I note the NOO is unwilling to afford you.

5) To those who wish to know our numbers: We have, as of this morning, 149 members divided into several companies. Of course, as we don't publish our membership lists openly, there is no way for either the NOO or TGA to verify that number. You will have to take my word at face value or not, but it matters not to me. It does not change the number whether you believe it or not.

In conclusion, I respectfully thank you members of The Great Alliance for your time in reading this lengthy post, as opposed to many smaller, and in my opinion spammier, posts that I could have made over the last few days.

Dark Elf Wench



 


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Rug on October 14, 2003, 08:46:41 PM
Well put, and it will be interesting to see how Err and co make their comeback, without resorting to insults or name calling.

Remember, keep this civil or you're out...


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Saladin on October 14, 2003, 09:09:13 PM
well at least u have good grammar! LOL  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Filran on October 14, 2003, 09:48:24 PM
But Auron, if I got reeeeally bored, could I pretend to be honorary NOO member with Errtu's permission? Please? I just wanna go and sit around and stare at them, and maybe poke'um with a stick...


Pleeeeease? :P


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Aikon on October 15, 2003, 01:13:26 AM
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Originally posted by dark_elf_wench
1) To those of you in the New Orc Order who are visiting this board and believe that we have asked TGA for assistance: If you will read my original missive, you will see that this is not indeed the case. We need no assistance and have asked for none. from TGA or from anyone else. My message was simply a courtesy letter to inform the members of the Great Alliance that one of their previously-declared enemies was being assaulted and that if they wanted to take advantage of the opportunity, it was there. Whether they wish to take advantage of it personally or as an alliance or not at all is, of course, completely their decision.

eh? if u didn't want anything out of this first post.. why come here at all.. why even bother? u just hoped they would join u..
u really think they need to be informed by you guys? u could as well say TGA is incapable of getting intel on their own..
it either the 1st option or the 2nd.. take a pick :P

and what is this assault u been talking about? isn't that kinda a heavy word for what it really is?? better call it a tickle..

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Originally posted by dark_elf_wench
2) To the person who commented that I was probably a nine-year-old: How many nine-year-olds have you met that can write with proper grammer and spelling or who have the patience to type a letter of significant length? I find it likely that those who fill the boards with obscenities are more likely the nine-year-olds, as words with four letters are very easy to spell and name-calling requires little thought on the part of the agressor. I'm certainly flattered that you missed my age by about twenty years to the young direction, though, instead of the other direction, which would make me an grumpy old lady.

ooh.. how obscene.. all the juicy parts were covered up.. i see worse (not for me LOL) things when i visit the beach.. IRL.. and about 9yr-olds being obscene.. OMG.. get out more..
u might not be at an age of 9.. but u sure act that way.. so.. what's the difference? woof woof :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by dark_elf_wench
3) On the eleven people who have quit the NOO or are showing invalid user: One has returned. He was apparently on hiatus due to being grounded. (Was someone discussing that OUR alliance was made of children?) One, Azman666, I know for certain quit as a response by predations made almost entirely on my part. Of course, he was complaining about these before we went to war. The war and the remainder of my allies attacking him was somewhat the last nail in the coffin of that account. But it was the Dogs who did it. The other nine, who knows? All I know is that we have received messages from the NOO to our leadership stating that their goal was to see as many "invalid users" in our ranks as possible, so that must be a standard for "winning", at least in their perception. By my count, of those NOO and Dogs who were members the day before we began our sabs for the assault (last Wednesday), 10 have quit from NOO and 2 from Dogs of War. So, by that definition, we are "winning".

ugh.. winning a war is taking lotsa gold from the the others.. LOL.. and maybe casualties..
not quitting.. this means less farms.. so not so good.. (can i get input on this from everyone what they think are the factors which decide winning or losing)
as for those who quit KoC and so the NOO.. i don't know any of them.. not one.. this means they don't visit the board much.. nor do they visit the chat.. so they're not worthy.. i already said it once.. thx for cleaning up..

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Originally posted by dark_elf_wench
4) To those who want to know if we allow orcs into the Dogs of War: Yes. We have members of all races. Our leader is Thug_Ironskull, an orc. Cedric_Ironwood, who someone mentioned above, is also an orc, and we have several others, none of whom will I name, since, as has been mentioned above, we don't post our membership list to a website. In our opinion, that is the height of either pride or stupidity, depending on how you look at it. We have never made a secret of having orcs within our ranks. I was chosen to speak with the Great Alliance out of respect for your views on orcs, and to not pollute your forum with the distasteful warmongering grunts of their race, a respect that I note the NOO is unwilling to afford you.

we don't hide.. we don't have anything to hide.. we're an alliance.. not a terrorist groupe.. i see no reason to hide except out of fear.. which we don't have..
so what if i'm cocky? i like being cocky :D

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Originally posted by dark_elf_wench
5) To those who wish to know our numbers: We have, as of this morning, 149 members divided into several companies. Of course, as we don't publish our membership lists openly, there is no way for either the NOO or TGA to verify that number. You will have to take my word at face value or not, but it matters not to me. It does not change the number whether you believe it or not.

w00t! 149 members! of which maybe 9 have an SA of above 2 mil damage.. i think it's not bout quantity.. but quality.. RAW POWER!
and again.. u might think it clever and cunning to hide your memberlist.. but we ALL know the REAL reason is.. rofl
i don't give a rat's ass that we don't know yer members.. 90% of them prolly aren't even worth farming.. what a joke

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Originally posted by dark_elf_wench
In conclusion, I respectfully thank you members of The Great Alliance for your time in reading this lengthy post, as opposed to many smaller, and in my opinion spammier, posts that I could have made over the last few days.

ugh.. *insert regurgitating emoticon here*
stop kissing TGA's butt.. LOL
and who said spam is bad? i like spam.. yummy
why use a lot of hollow words when few suffice?

last attack in my attack log was one of Thug_Ironskull.. counting non-doggies as well.. and that was 4 frikkin' days ago.. what u gonna do?
bore me to death? LOL
choke me with all the gold the doggies give me? LOL
this doesn't even deserve to be called a war..

PS: excuuuuse me if my spelling is bad cuz i used:

u instead of you
cuz instead of because
prolly instead of probably
gonna instead of going to

and any other abbreviations that aren't looked at as "correct english".. or the lack of capitals.. and overuse of ".........."  :P
dgeez...


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: EvilTracy on October 15, 2003, 01:49:25 AM
I can say this... I don't know what happened to the war? It's not fun when we sab em and send taunting messages (yes, this is a tactic we discovered on their alliance page)... yet, we still don't get return fire? I publicly criticize them on our boards... they don't comment anymore (they used to leave little messages like 'you all suck')... I do 'occassionaly' get an attack by thug_ironskull.... actually, I think that's because he is the only alliance member able to get through... but, that shouldn't be too hard... his counter attack is about 2,000 from selling on his defense.

I don't know what's going on? Maybe the DoW is trying to get new members? Letting their attack turns build up? I do notice that many of their members are banking knives... so, my only guess is right now they are too weak to put a dent in us and they are 'getting ready' for this next big war.

As final proof of how weak they are... and how little they are now fighting... all I can say is, check out our forums....

Notice how the badmouthing is subtle? We spam your boards, they do not... this is subtle form of kissing up.... that is all... it's not that they are polite and we are 'big bad NOO'... otherwise our boards would not have posts like "You all suck and will die"... (not that there are a lot... but there are some).

And finally... I would like to comment on the star wars comment... you know... the small rebel forces.. and how the empire was scared but did not show their fear... that was a movie... Now lets look at the Romans in history (real life)... they kicked booty... they were cocky... and they could back up with they said.

All I can say again... visit our boards if you REALLY care.. and judge for yourself... it's highly unlikely that we have begun posting on our board a bunch of phoney posts just for a cover of how badly we're getting beaten down.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Eirana[NOO] on October 15, 2003, 02:22:36 AM
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#1 This was not NOT started unprovoked. When you get farmed over and over again, and you decideto do something about it, how does that become an unprovoked attack?

One member of an alliance farms you because you can't figure out how to keep it spent fast enough.  In most circles people will tell you that an organized strike on that single indivdual is usually the best choice of action.  Instead your alliance sneak attacked some NOO members whom have never heard of you or your farming complaint.  No public statement was ever made on the NOO boards about your complaint so I'd have to say DoW attacked mostly innocent bystanders without formal declaration.  Wouldn't it have been the honorable action to declare you intentions such that those that didn't want to participte could have left the NOO before you dishonorably bushwhacked them?

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#2 Ive heard nothing but b!tching coming from the NOO over this war. The Dow have not.

Now I'm not sure where this came from.  Please post whatever material you have that includes evidence of said remarks.  More likely your confusing the extreme sarcasm on our boards as factual statements.  The fact is NOO is laughing at you every day.  This is the most active I've seen the NOO in awhile and I can say its solely because you provide some of the best free entertainment we can get while waiting for the database errors to clear.

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#3 Its a game. Chill guys

Now this is an absolute gem of a statement.  I suppose if we were all chill wars wouldn't start now would they?  Take some of your own advise and just suck it up the next time a better player farms you because you can't spend your money fast enough.

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#4I bet its making the Newly Owned orcs FUME that they set out (per their own posts) to make as many Dogs quit as they can, and so far sense this war has started the score if your going by that is DoW - 11 and NOO - 0

Its no secret NOO will stomp out your alliance provided it continues to amuse us.  If your so confident in your numbers please post NOO members you claim to have made inactive.  I for one know that our posted member list has been full of invalid users since week 2 of this age.  Congrats you've just figured that out too!

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1) To those of you in the New Orc Order who are visiting this board and believe that we have asked TGA for assistance: If you will read my original missive, you will see that this is not indeed the case. We need no assistance and have asked for none. from TGA or from anyone else. My message was simply a courtesy letter to inform the members of the Great Alliance that one of their previously-declared enemies was being assaulted and that if they wanted to take advantage of the opportunity, it was there. Whether they wish to take advantage of it personally or as an alliance or not at all is, of course, completely their decision.

This was a cheap ploy to get outside help.  You know it, I know it, everyone on this forum knows it.  Give up the act already honey and start being honest.

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2) To the person who commented that I was probably a nine-year-old: How many nine-year-olds have you met that can write with proper grammer and spelling or who have the patience to type a letter of significant length? I find it likely that those who fill the boards with obscenities are more likely the nine-year-olds, as words with four letters are very easy to spell and name-calling requires little thought on the part of the agressor. I'm certainly flattered that you missed my age by about twenty years to the young direction, though, instead of the other direction, which would make me an grumpy old lady.

From now on by your request we'll now refer to you as "The Grumpy Old Wench".  My apologies we didn't get that right the first time.

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3) On the eleven people who have quit the NOO or are showing invalid user: One has returned. He was apparently on hiatus due to being grounded. (Was someone discussing that OUR alliance was made of children?) One, Azman666, I know for certain quit as a response by predations made almost entirely on my part. Of course, he was complaining about these before we went to war. The war and the remainder of my allies attacking him was somewhat the last nail in the coffin of that account. But it was the Dogs who did it. The other nine, who knows? All I know is that we have received messages from the NOO to our leadership stating that their goal was to see as many "invalid users" in our ranks as possible, so that must be a standard for "winning", at least in their perception. By my count, of those NOO and Dogs who were members the day before we began our sabs for the assault (last Wednesday), 10 have quit from NOO and 2 from Dogs of War. So, by that definition, we are "winning".

Yeah Azman666 also last clicked the links on Sept 20th let alone search for any posts he made in our forums.  My sincerest gratatude goes to you for weeding out that inactive member.  Please show us more of the NOO members you've claimed to have slain.

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4) To those who want to know if we allow orcs into the Dogs of War: Yes. We have members of all races. Our leader is Thug_Ironskull, an orc. Cedric_Ironwood, who someone mentioned above, is also an orc, and we have several others, none of whom will I name, since, as has been mentioned above, we don't post our membership list to a website. In our opinion, that is the height of either pride or stupidity, depending on how you look at it. We have never made a secret of having orcs within our ranks.

DoW hides its member list because its;
A)  Non-existant
B)  Is full of accounts that Bane, Wench, and Thug signed up for in their local university computerlab with hotmail accounts
C)  Is full of non-participants that just want the clicks because they know and respect the NOO as a strong alliance

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I was chosen to speak with the Great Alliance out of respect for your views on orcs, and to not pollute your forum with the distasteful warmongering grunts of their race, a respect that I note the NOO is unwilling to afford you.

I have to once again raise the BS flag here.  You chose to misrepresnt your alliance by attempting to garner sympathy from the TGA through your racial choice as an Elf.   You had hoped that the TGA would be so dense as not to find out your alliance was polluted with the very filth you proclaim to distain.  I must admit you do a pretty good job of diplomacy.  However the "gig" is up Wench and you'll find no shelter here.

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5) To those who wish to know our numbers: We have, as of this morning, 149 members divided into several companies. Of course, as we don't publish our membership lists openly, there is no way for either the NOO or TGA to verify that number. You will have to take my word at face value or not, but it matters not to me. It does not change the number whether you believe it or not.

So far your "word" has been found lacking.  I'd also like to point out that the NOO has been keeping track of the people actively involved.  So far the NOO has a list of less then 20 names.  So I guess that means that only 13.4 percent of your so called "alliance" is actively involved.  That would mean the other 86.6 percent realize the absolute folly of your leadership.  If they even exist at all they might as well not count since they don't seem to be following orders very well.  

Publish your member list in its entirety so that we can get down to business.  Your members fear NOO and with good reason.  Thats why you have to hide them in anonymity so they don't get exposed to any foolishiness you bring apon your alliance.  You are nothing more then a coward with no honor.

-Eirana
New Orc Order


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Arkanor on October 15, 2003, 02:23:04 AM
Meh.  I agree with the general TGA sentiment.  Let the NOO handle this one (as no doubt they can).  Things are a little murky right now, but if it's Orcs vs. Orcs, then the against orcs creed can't be invoked.  'Sides, we're allies with the NOO right now.  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: opperdude on October 15, 2003, 10:42:16 AM
yeah i think that IF we ever going to war again with NOO, it should be planned and started by TGA or NOO, we could then inform DoW that if they want to take revenge for earlier wars, they can get sum at that time. it being the other way around seems like a wrong perspective to me
also i believe we can never be allies with DoW as they have orcs, they even have an orc as a leader

i know my grammar sux, i like spammy posts, (but off course i never ever spam, as i don't want stickers... yes NOO and DoW members here, we get STICKERS!!! w00t)


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Filran on October 15, 2003, 11:33:57 AM
Wars this age are BORING anyway. Its all: OMG I R GUNNA SAB U!@!@!!112 and all that. How bland.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: sirjohn13 on October 15, 2003, 12:13:49 PM
Auron, don't u think this thread has gone way too much?
In my opinion some people do not respect the rules of this thread concerning flaming and spamming.
I suggest u close the thread and may DoW and NOO go to another forum to discuss their matters.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: opperdude on October 15, 2003, 12:42:49 PM
i haven't seen any flaming... as in: fish you motherfishing i'm gonna shove this mottafishing stick up you butt

that is flaming, all parties have explaned their points of view here, all in their own style


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Filran on October 15, 2003, 01:13:12 PM
My version of flaming usually is mocking people by going: OMGLYKWTF!?@!@!111 And stuff. XD


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: crazyboi on October 15, 2003, 02:03:02 PM
for filran !#%)&()$#T(Y)E Y@_%&_(&_!!!!!

alrite in my opinion let these 2 clans/groups abuse each other  


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Rug on October 15, 2003, 04:24:36 PM
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Auron, don't u think this thread has gone way too much?
In my opinion some people do not respect the rules of this thread concerning flaming and spamming.
I suggest u close the thread and may DoW and NOO go to another forum to discuss their matters.
No. I would appreiciate it if people didnt post things like this either: Its spammy and, after all, it's my decision whether this lives or dies in the end.

Very good comebacks from NOO members there. Keep it up everyone, as polite as possible.


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: ~Errtu~ on October 15, 2003, 06:39:55 PM
well...my members alrdy said all i wanted to say bout those posts from the puppies...all except one: u may have made sum "NOO members" quit KoC...well: face the fact they all were inactives and would have been deleted last saturday anywayz. look at our new memberslist. if u can make even a single one of those quit it would be your first success. TGA knows how NOO was organised (until a few days ago) and they already took the advantage of raping dozens of inactives and doing like they were raping us so hard last age (at least the war with TGA was a real war since most of their wins weren't faked)
@fil: don't think i can allow ya to rape DoW...otherwise they would go to GUA and be like: NOO can't handle us alone! they gotta get back up! we own them! (yeah...they are like that)
i would like to end this post with a modified quote from thug_ironskull:
Woof Woof, were nipping at your heels DoW

P.S.:ignore my bad spelling/grammar...i'm drinking :P
P.P.S.: give up puppies. TGA won't help ya so don't force us to correct ur lies nemore. thnx


Title: Assault on the New Orc Order!
Post by: Aikon on October 15, 2003, 08:28:23 PM
30 minutes ago RuxRux Attack defended 1 1 0 33,786
31 minutes ago RuxRux Attack defended 1 0 0 33,264
31 minutes ago RuxRux Attack defended 1 1 0 28,272
32 minutes ago RuxRux Attack defended 1 0 0 30,426
33 minutes ago RuxRux Attack defended 1 0 0 29,054

LOL

0 gold taken
0 casualties
0 skins points lost
= total waste of turns by DoW

what a joke.. LOL

msg:
RuxRux kisses        
Kisses from the Chihuahua of Death.

OMG.. they found something new..

*edit*
9 hrs later

2 minutes ago Budda_Pesty Attack defended 1 3 4 792,520
2 minutes ago Budda_Pesty Attack defended 1 4 4 836,046
3 minutes ago Budda_Pesty Attack defended 1 7 9 870,989
3 minutes ago Budda_Pesty Attack defended 1 3 4 795,639
7 minutes ago Budda_Pesty Attack defended 1 4 4 822,057
10 minutes ago Dark_Elf_Wench Attack defended 1 13 3 341,240
11 minutes ago Dark_Elf_Wench Attack defended 1 4 1 311,088
11 minutes ago Dark_Elf_Wench Attack defended 1 7 1 355,310
22 minutes ago Thug_Ironskull 4,404 Gold stolen 1 2 6 11,434,558
23 minutes ago Thug_Ironskull 5,906 Gold stolen 1 3 12 11,394,143
25 minutes ago Thug_Ironskull 4,428 Gold stolen 1 5 19 11,463,698
26 minutes ago Thug_Ironskull 6,052 Gold stolen 1 5 17 10,935,639

20.790 gold taken
103 fallen regular mercs
23 points to my skins lost

already bought 123 new regular mercs.. repaired my weapons.. where is this war? :paranoid:

*edit*
1hr later

2 hours ago TShadowLord Attack defended 1 1 5 591,417
2 hours ago TShadowLord Attack defended 1 0 4 623,184
2 hours ago TShadowLord Attack defended 1 0 2 670,934
2 hours ago TShadowLord Attack defended 1 0 2 657,783
2 hours ago TShadowLord Attack defended 1 0 4 644,449
3 hours ago DarkElf732 2,738 Gold stolen 1 1 6 4,482,144